Name the next three U.S. Presidents

[Albus Dumbledore]

Weird. I was under the impression Jindal's sole experience was being elected recently to governor. Nevermind then.

[Mr. Morden]

Weird. I was under the impression Jindal's sole experience was being elected recently to governor. Nevermind then.

Well it was recent, but we're talking about what his experience will be in 2012, as that's when he'd be running for president in this hypothetical.  By that time, he will surely have had more experience than Barack Obama does in 2008.

[Albus Dumbledore]

That presumes a nonwhite can win the GOP primaries. Given the rustbelt and Dixie base of the GOP...

[Mr. Morden]

That presumes a nonwhite can win the GOP primaries. Given the rustbelt and Dixie base of the GOP...

I'm not saying that he can.  The only thing I was taking issue with was "The experience issue will doom Jindal though."

I leave it to Earl to defend the issue of whether Jindal can actually win the GOP nom. in 2012.

[Albus Dumbledore]

If Jindal can keep in office he'd be a possibility for 2016 or 2020.

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Funny. I see Jindal as a McGovern-like figure by 2012.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Funny. I see Jindal as a McGovern-like figure by 2012.

As in loses badly?

[Adlai Stevenson]

Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) 2009-2017
Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) 2017-

Beyond that I think its impossible to say anything. 

[InsaneTrollLogic]

Funny. I see Jindal as a McGovern-like figure by 2012.

As in loses badly?

Well, that, and being basically the ultra-radical who is so conservative that people will question if he really believes in democracy.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Is Jindal term-limited?  If so I think 2016 or 2020 is about the latest he could think of being elected.

[All life is a blur of Republicans and meat.]

I find it slightly amusing that almost none of the McCain people here even seem to think he's going to win.

[So the Heroes Fall]

Aside from my original point:

Why do so many think a Jindal presidency is basically inevitable at some point? Jindal is currently the most right wing Governor in America. Also:



Northern Louisiana didn't change radically in 4 years, neither did Jindal's skin color. Simply the political context of the state. And even then Jindal notably underperformed in the area. I don't see anything that makes Jindal so strong of a candidate that there is no way he can be denied the Presidency.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Aside from my original point:

Why do so many think a Jindal presidency is basically inevitable at some point? Jindal is currently the most right wing Governor in America. Also:



Northern Louisiana didn't change radically in 4 years, neither did Jindal's skin color. Simply the political context of the state. And even then Jindal notably underperformed in the area. I don't see anything that makes Jindal so strong of a candidate that there is no way he can be denied the Presidency.

Its not so much that he's a lock for the presidency, he's a good bet for the nomination.  Plus, I don't think people would care if he said "macaca", its kind of like if Obama just started beltin out the N-word, so he's pretty set there.

[Spaghetti Cat]

I'll do the next five because I feel like it.
Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) (2009-2013)
does not seek reelection
Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) (2013-2021)
Vice President Sarah Palin (R-AK) (2021-2029)
Senate Majority Leader Mark Warner (D-VA) (2029-2033)
loses primary
Governor Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) (2033-2037)
loses reelection

or

Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) (2009-2017)
Vice President Jim Webb (D-VA) (2017-2025)
Governor Tim Ryan (D-OH) (2025-2029)
loses reelection
Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) (2029-2037)
Senator Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) (2037-2041)
loses reelection

[Albus Dumbledore]

Webb is unelectable.

[Governor PiT]

McCain: 2008-2012
Warner: 2012-2020
Jindal: 2020-2028

[Josh/Devilman88]

2008:



Obama: 306
McCain: 232


From here out I will not do EV totals because they will change.

2012



Obama wins over Romney.


2016



Sarah Palin(AK) vs Mary Landiren(LA), I don't know who wins, because the EV will be different, but it will be using the 2012 EV map, what every that may be. I may add the EV totals.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

[Χahar]

Georgia LOL

[Josh/Devilman88]

Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.

1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

[MSUfan]

Barack Obama (2009-2017)
Gordon Smith (2017-2021)
Hobo living in a box in downtown saginaw (2021-?)

[Josh/Devilman88]

Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.

1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

GA isn't moving right or left right now, its holding steady, but I see it being more Democratic at the natonal level, but saying republican at the local level. Also  LA would go Democratic because the Mary is from there, and 99% of the time the candidate wins their home state.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.

1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

GA isn't moving right or left right now, its holding steady, but I see it being more Democratic at the natonal level, but saying republican at the local level. Also  LA would go Democratic because the Mary is from there, and 99% of the time the candidate wins their home state.

1.) No, you can't argue Georgia is not moving to the right, its a fact not an opinion
2.) Al Gore did incredibly well in TN in 2000

[Josh/Devilman88]

Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.

1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

GA isn't moving right or left right now, its holding steady, but I see it being more Democratic at the natonal level, but saying republican at the local level. Also  LA would go Democratic because the Mary is from there, and 99% of the time the candidate wins their home state.

1.) No, you can't argue Georgia is not moving to the right, its a fact not an opinion
2.) Al Gore did incredibly well in TN in 2000

I said 99% of the time. Also Gore was too liberal for TN when he ran.