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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2008, 09:00:54 pm »
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Weird. I was under the impression Jindal's sole experience was being elected recently to governor. Nevermind then.
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« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2008, 09:04:50 pm »

Weird. I was under the impression Jindal's sole experience was being elected recently to governor. Nevermind then.

Well it was recent, but we're talking about what his experience will be in 2012, as that's when he'd be running for president in this hypothetical.  By that time, he will surely have had more experience than Barack Obama does in 2008.
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« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2008, 09:05:44 pm »
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That presumes a nonwhite can win the GOP primaries. Given the rustbelt and Dixie base of the GOP...
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« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2008, 09:14:08 pm »

That presumes a nonwhite can win the GOP primaries. Given the rustbelt and Dixie base of the GOP...

I'm not saying that he can.  The only thing I was taking issue with was "The experience issue will doom Jindal though."

I leave it to Earl to defend the issue of whether Jindal can actually win the GOP nom. in 2012.
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« Reply #29 on: June 09, 2008, 09:36:14 pm »
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If Jindal can keep in office he'd be a possibility for 2016 or 2020.
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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2008, 09:11:19 am »
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Funny. I see Jindal as a McGovern-like figure by 2012.
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« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2008, 09:42:24 am »
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Funny. I see Jindal as a McGovern-like figure by 2012.
As in loses badly?
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« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2008, 11:22:50 am »
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Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) 2009-2017
Governor Sarah Palin (R-AK)/Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) 2017-

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« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2008, 04:45:20 pm »
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Funny. I see Jindal as a McGovern-like figure by 2012.
As in loses badly?

Well, that, and being basically the ultra-radical who is so conservative that people will question if he really believes in democracy.
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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2008, 10:08:05 am »
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Is Jindal term-limited?  If so I think 2016 or 2020 is about the latest he could think of being elected.
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« Reply #35 on: June 12, 2008, 03:14:13 am »
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I find it slightly amusing that almost none of the McCain people here even seem to think he's going to win.
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« Reply #36 on: June 12, 2008, 11:43:05 am »
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Aside from my original point:

Why do so many think a Jindal presidency is basically inevitable at some point? Jindal is currently the most right wing Governor in America. Also:



Northern Louisiana didn't change radically in 4 years, neither did Jindal's skin color. Simply the political context of the state. And even then Jindal notably underperformed in the area. I don't see anything that makes Jindal so strong of a candidate that there is no way he can be denied the Presidency.
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« Reply #37 on: June 12, 2008, 12:51:03 pm »
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Aside from my original point:

Why do so many think a Jindal presidency is basically inevitable at some point? Jindal is currently the most right wing Governor in America. Also:



Northern Louisiana didn't change radically in 4 years, neither did Jindal's skin color. Simply the political context of the state. And even then Jindal notably underperformed in the area. I don't see anything that makes Jindal so strong of a candidate that there is no way he can be denied the Presidency.
Its not so much that he's a lock for the presidency, he's a good bet for the nomination.  Plus, I don't think people would care if he said "macaca", its kind of like if Obama just started beltin out the N-word, so he's pretty set there.
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« Reply #38 on: June 21, 2008, 09:40:50 pm »
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I'll do the next five because I feel like it.
Senator John McCain (R-Arizona) (2009-2013)
does not seek reelection
Governor Bobby Jindal (R-LA) (2013-2021)
Vice President Sarah Palin (R-AK) (2021-2029)
Senate Majority Leader Mark Warner (D-VA) (2029-2033)
loses primary
Governor Earl Blumenauer (D-OR) (2033-2037)
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Senator Barack Obama (D-Ill) (2009-2017)
Vice President Jim Webb (D-VA) (2017-2025)
Governor Tim Ryan (D-OH) (2025-2029)
loses reelection
Senator Norm Coleman (R-MN) (2029-2037)
Senator Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA) (2037-2041)
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« Reply #39 on: June 21, 2008, 09:46:24 pm »
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Webb is unelectable.
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« Reply #40 on: June 25, 2008, 07:55:11 pm »
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McCain: 2008-2012
Warner: 2012-2020
Jindal: 2020-2028
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« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2008, 11:57:42 am »
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2008:



Obama: 306
McCain: 232



From here out I will not do EV totals because they will change.

2012



Obama wins over Romney.



2016



Sarah Palin(AK) vs Mary Landiren(LA), I don't know who wins, because the EV will be different, but it will be using the 2012 EV map, what every that may be. I may add the EV totals.

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« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2008, 12:31:19 pm »
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Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem
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« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2008, 01:12:59 pm »
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« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2008, 01:56:23 pm »
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Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.
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« Reply #45 on: June 27, 2008, 02:13:25 pm »
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Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.
1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right
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« Reply #46 on: June 27, 2008, 02:18:06 pm »
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Barack Obama (2009-2017)
Gordon Smith (2017-2021)
Hobo living in a box in downtown saginaw (2021-?Huh)
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« Reply #47 on: June 27, 2008, 02:39:58 pm »
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Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.
1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

GA isn't moving right or left right now, its holding steady, but I see it being more Democratic at the natonal level, but saying republican at the local level. Also  LA would go Democratic because the Mary is from there, and 99% of the time the candidate wins their home state.
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« Reply #48 on: June 27, 2008, 02:41:57 pm »
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Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.
1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

GA isn't moving right or left right now, its holding steady, but I see it being more Democratic at the natonal level, but saying republican at the local level. Also  LA would go Democratic because the Mary is from there, and 99% of the time the candidate wins their home state.
1.) No, you can't argue Georgia is not moving to the right, its a fact not an opinion
2.) Al Gore did incredibly well in TN in 2000
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« Reply #49 on: June 27, 2008, 02:57:03 pm »
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Palin v. Landrieu?  Do you really the Dems will nominate a moderate who is either out of office or barely winning?  BTW, LOL @ NC, GA, and LA voting Dem

LA did in 1992 and 1996. Also by that time, GA and NC will both have around 10 to 11 million people live in them states, Most from up North moving down because the cost of living is lower and the weather is better.
1.) VT has voted Republican more times any state, in fact up until 1992, I don't know the last time they didn't.  Is it going to be a GOP bastion soon?
2.) More people does not equal more Democratic, Georgia is growing a lot and is moving right

GA isn't moving right or left right now, its holding steady, but I see it being more Democratic at the natonal level, but saying republican at the local level. Also  LA would go Democratic because the Mary is from there, and 99% of the time the candidate wins their home state.
1.) No, you can't argue Georgia is not moving to the right, its a fact not an opinion
2.) Al Gore did incredibly well in TN in 2000

I said 99% of the time. Also Gore was too liberal for TN when he ran.
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