What if these French plans for the Mandate of Syria were implemented?

[phk]

What if these French plans for the Mandate of Syria were implemented and each were given full-fledged statehood?

[Albus Dumbledore]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

[12th Doctor]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

Why?  Syria is an artificial state.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

Why?  Syria is an artificial state.

Far less so than Greater Lebanon.  If the French hadn't been half so clever, they could have left the Beqaa Valley outside Lebanon and kept Lebanon securely Christian and avoid much of the turmoil that has plagued that country.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Or here's an even smarter move: The french move Syria's christians to Lebanon and send Lebanon's muslims to Syria along with taking in fleeing christian assyrians/armenians/greeks from the ruins of the Ottomans. Voila, entirely christian Lebanon and in the same borders(or bigger if you want).

[12th Doctor]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

Why?  Syria is an artificial state.

Far less so than Greater Lebanon.  If the French hadn't been half so clever, they could have left the Beqaa Valley outside Lebanon and kept Lebanon securely Christian and avoid much of the turmoil that has plagued that country.

Certainly true... the only real nations in the Middle East are Iran, Egypt and Israel.  the rest are literally just lines on a map that mean nothing.

[Хahar 🤔]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

Why?  Syria is an artificial state.

Far less so than Greater Lebanon.  If the French hadn't been half so clever, they could have left the Beqaa Valley outside Lebanon and kept Lebanon securely Christian and avoid much of the turmoil that has plagued that country.

Certainly true... the only real nations in the Middle East are Iran, Egypt and Israel.  the rest are literally just lines on a map that mean nothing.

And Morocco (maybe Tunisia), if you include North Africa.

[12th Doctor]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

Why?  Syria is an artificial state.

Far less so than Greater Lebanon.  If the French hadn't been half so clever, they could have left the Beqaa Valley outside Lebanon and kept Lebanon securely Christian and avoid much of the turmoil that has plagued that country.

Certainly true... the only real nations in the Middle East are Iran, Egypt and Israel.  the rest are literally just lines on a map that mean nothing.

And Morocco (maybe Tunisia), if you include North Africa.

That's a very broad definition of "Middle East" though.

[Хahar 🤔]

The Middle east has even more wars than in the real world due to factions wanting to unite Syria.

Why?  Syria is an artificial state.

Far less so than Greater Lebanon.  If the French hadn't been half so clever, they could have left the Beqaa Valley outside Lebanon and kept Lebanon securely Christian and avoid much of the turmoil that has plagued that country.

Certainly true... the only real nations in the Middle East are Iran, Egypt and Israel.  the rest are literally just lines on a map that mean nothing.

And Morocco (maybe Tunisia), if you include North Africa.

That's a very broad definition of "Middle East" though.

I think the State Department often uses it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

[12th Doctor]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

So some theorists say.

If people living in a region have no common identity, though, it tends to be quite difficult to hold a state together, though.  Often times, states forcibly create nations by wiping out smaller nations that already existed inside their boarders, though.

[dead0man]

Or here's an even smarter move: The french move Syria's christians to Lebanon and send Lebanon's muslims to Syria along with taking in fleeing christian assyrians/armenians/greeks from the ruins of the Ottomans. Voila, entirely christian Lebanon and in the same borders(or bigger if you want).

Forced migrations heh?  That always ends well.

[JohnFKennedy]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

Debatable. Perhaps it would be better to say that states expand nations?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

Debatable. Perhaps it would be better to say that states expand nations?

Ah... but what is a "nation"?

[Хahar 🤔]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

Debatable. Perhaps it would be better to say that states expand nations?

Ah... but what is a "nation"?

A group of people that feel that they are a nation.

The only way to define it is to resort to recursivity.

[JohnFKennedy]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

Debatable. Perhaps it would be better to say that states expand nations?

Ah... but what is a "nation"?

Well, I've always rather liked Benedict Anderson so I will go with an imagined community with a shared linguistic and cultural identity.

[12th Doctor]

States create nations, not the other way round.

*ducks*

Debatable. Perhaps it would be better to say that states expand nations?

Ah... but what is a "nation"?

A group of people with a common identity... derived though any of several factors.