Politically bi-polar

[Reaganfan]

One minute I think we're gonna win...the next I think Obama will win....then I KNOW McCain will win....but then I think how can Obama lose?

I am feeling politically bi-polar.

[exopolitician]

Heavy heavy medication usually cures this....but in your condition I have no clue. Sorry friend.

[Reaganfan]

Heavy heavy medication usually cures this....but in your condition I have no clue. Sorry friend.

You're still one of my favorite posters HARP.

[exopolitician]

Heavy heavy medication usually cures this....but in your condition I have no clue. Sorry friend.

You're still one of my favorite posters HARP.

Likewise...even though we'll basically never agree on anything political wise haha.


And I have feelings like this all the time. Obama will have a couple of good days..but then again McCain finds a way to come back. I think for right now Obama will be riding high since he won the parties nomination and Clinton has bowed out an endorsed him. Once real campaiging gets going we'll start to see more fluctuations and real numbers.

[Lunar]

I actually think that you're not a minority among politically savvy McCain backers.  It's possible that even McCain's campaign team might go through these cycles as well as we seem to go through alternating positive and negative news cycles for Obama (think victories contrasted with a stubborn Clinton, Wright, Pfleger, working class white troubles, etc).  McCain's team has been putting out electoral/strategic propaganda in the last two days to comfort donors and backers:




I know it's redundant to say this, but the electoral winds and macropolitical factors clearly favor the Democrats.  This is contrasted with the fact that Obama is young, black, and inexperiences while the Republicans have nominated what many argue is the best candidate to beat the Democrats in an anti-Bush electorate.  So, of course as Obama's weaknesses go up and down in our perception, many people go back and forth between his inevitable victory and defeat.

[Torie]

One just doesn't know. It's too early. One must learn to live with and accept uncertainty. The other thing is that politicians tend to make less of a difference than one may think, including Presidents. Their range of realistic options is narrower than one might think. If Obama is elected, what actually is enacted into law will be a far cry for [from] his recent economic populist message, which will be DOA. It just won't work, pencil, or happen.

[Sbane]

One just doesn't know. It's too early. One must learn to live with and accept uncertainty. The other thing is that politicians tend to make less of a difference than one may think, including Presidents. Their range of realistic options is narrower than one might think. If Obama is elected, what actually is enacted into law will be a far cry for his recent economic populist message, which will be DOA. It just won't work, pencil, or happen.

One important thing that presidents have total control over is war.... the reason why Obama should be elected.

[Torie]

Correct. But Obama is merging into McCain now on Iraq. The range of options going forward given Bush's fecklessness are quite narrow there. If things continue to improve, Obama is not going to upset the apple cart, by doing something really dumb. Obama sounds just like McCain on Iran, Israel, etc. now, putting aside the talk to the perps without preconditions thing, which Obama is now also backing away from. One thing I like about Obama is that he is a pretty cautious man temperamentally. I also don't believe his recent populist rants.

If you invest too much psychological energy into Obama, as some transformational agent, that will mitigate  chronic problems in some fundamental way, if he is elected. you are more likely than not destined to disappointment. Ya, some of this is just the musing of someone with perhaps too many miles on him. So take it for what it is worth! 

[Sbane]

Correct. But Obama is merging into McCain now on Iraq. The range of options going forward given Bush's fecklessness are quite narrow there. If things continue to improve, Obama is not going to upset the apple cart, by doing something really dumb. Obama sounds just like McCain on Iran, Israel, etc. now, putting aside the talk to the perps without preconditions thing, which Obama is now also backing away from. One thing I like about Obama is that he is a pretty cautious man temperamentally. I also don't believe his recent populist rants.

If you invest too much psychological energy into Obama, as some transformational agent, that will mitigate  chronic problems in some fundamental way, if he is elected. you are more likely than not destined to disappointment. Ya, some of this is just the musing of someone with perhaps too many miles on him. So take it for what it is worth! 

Yeah they sound the same on Iran maybe, but how will the actually handle it after the election. I understand the options in Iraq are limited but I talk about it so much because I fear a war in Iran. And the scary part is that Mccain has made a song about bombing Iran to the tune of a beach boy song. So yeah..... I dont know if he is to be trusted. As for the economy I also do not agree with Obama's protectionist tones but I know it is mostly just show. NAFTA will not be dismantled lol and any changes to it will probably be for the better.

[Stranger in a strange land]

I feel the same way actually.

[Ronnie]

I used to think like you, but now I believe that this election is solid-safe Obama win.

[ottermax]

Hey, McCain still has a chance I have to admit. I would not be happy with McCain, but I guess he is bearable unlike Bush. This will be interesting this year, and we will have to see what surprises lie ahead!

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I feel right now that Obama definitely has the advantage, but I haven't completely given up hope yet. It's a long election season, and if the McCain team is smart, they can win this thing. His fundraising is actually picking up, and combined with the RNC they are nearly even with Obama. A lot can happen in 5 months.

[ottermax]

I feel right now that Obama definitely has the advantage, but I haven't completely given up hope yet. It's a long election season, and if the McCain team is smart, they can win this thing. His fundraising is actually picking up, and combined with the RNC they are nearly even with Obama. A lot can happen in 5 months.

The RNC has to spend a lot of money protecting their congressional races I believe.

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The X's primary opponent did well in state Y, so X will do poorly in state Y in the general election is bogus. See Vermont in 2004.

[Хahar 🤔]

Yuck. An AHDukian map.

[Bacon King]

It will be a couple of months before anyone really has any idea about how the election is going to end up. At this point, it's still possible (though unlikely) to have a decent landslide in either direction.

Really, your back-and-forth is just a symptom of ultimately having almost no evidence to base a november election prediction on.

[Nym90]

Yeah, Lieberman will win Connecticut for McCain. Ok.....

Speaking of states being said to be in play that clearly aren't, what's with these recent media suggestions that Georgia represents a long shot possibility for Obama? CNN and Fox news have both talked about it lately...someone on Fox said there were 600,000 blacks that weren't registered to vote in Georgia and that Obama can bring them to the polls and make it competitive. It was a bit laughable, to say the least.

[Gustaf]

The X's primary opponent did well in state Y, so X will do poorly in state Y in the general election is bogus. See Vermont in 2004.

Eh. It actually depends on the reason for doing badly in a primary. It can be relevant in some cases.

Nym: if black turnout rises to 100% while white turnout remains steady Obama would not just put Georgia in play.

[HardRCafé]

Speaking of states being said to be in play that clearly aren't, what's with these recent media suggestions that Georgia represents a long shot possibility for Obama? CNN and Fox news have both talked about it lately...someone on Fox said there were 600,000 blacks that weren't registered to vote in Georgia and that Obama can bring them to the polls and make it competitive. It was a bit laughable, to say the least.

You laugh, but that's exactly how Nader won!  Oh, wait.