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« on: June 14, 2008, 12:56:02 AM »

-In a suprise for all in election night, John McCain becomes the 44Th President of the United States. The Democrats say that the Libertarians acted as the Ralph Nader of 2008 others say it was Hillary's supporters that made Obama loose, here's the official map of the US election of 2008. The closest state was Colorado which barley went to the Republicans, if it had went to Obama, he would have barley won th election by 2 Electoral Votes but that didn't happen and now we have President-Elect McCain.



Barack Obama/Bill Richardson(49%-261 EV)
John McCain/Bobby Jindal(47%-277 EV)
Bob Barr/Wayne Root(4%-0 EV)
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2008, 01:01:32 AM »


John McCain's victory speech pointed out that he would try to appease the Democrats and also to have a Bipartisan cabinet to try and "Unite" the two waring party's, he would have to because he would be stuck with a Democratic Congress and a bare minimun Republican controlled Senate for at least till the Senate and Congressional elections in 2010.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2008, 01:14:18 AM »


Barack Obama and Bill Richardson flew to Iowa, were Obama's road to the nomination and a hopefull presidency began to give their farwell speech across the nation. Barack Obama gave a strong farwell to the American people but said that change didn't fail, that only that all the people that supported change had lit a fire under change and had begun a revolution of sorts, with "Change" Democrats being elected to the House and the Senate, it did seem Change hadn't died and the Democrats were now ready to fight with the new President-Elect McCain for their loss in 2008 all the way to the 2012 election.
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2008, 05:52:42 AM »

-In a suprise for all in election night, John McCain becomes the 44Th President of the United States. The Democrats say that the Libertarians acted as the Ralph Nader of 2008 others say it was Hillary's supporters that made Obama loose, here's the official map of the US election of 2008. The closest state was Colorado which barley went to the Republicans, if it had went to Obama, he would have barley won th election by 2 Electoral Votes but that didn't happen and now we have President-Elect McCain.



Barack Obama/Bill Richardson(49%-261 EV)
John McCain/Bobby Jindal(47%-277 EV)
Bob Barr/Wayne Root(4%-0 EV)

Care to explain the 2008 Electoral College map Andy?

Whilst I know in your scenario that the Libertarians play the Nader role in this Election, but in my mind it would be highly unlikely that Obama would be able to pick up Indiana and Florida and yet lose Oregon, Minnesota and Pennsylvania at the same time. Obama either wins the latter or he does not.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2008, 06:49:39 AM »

-In a suprise for all in election night, John McCain becomes the 44Th President of the United States. The Democrats say that the Libertarians acted as the Ralph Nader of 2008 others say it was Hillary's supporters that made Obama loose, here's the official map of the US election of 2008. The closest state was Colorado which barley went to the Republicans, if it had went to Obama, he would have barley won th election by 2 Electoral Votes but that didn't happen and now we have President-Elect McCain.



Barack Obama/Bill Richardson(49%-261 EV)
John McCain/Bobby Jindal(47%-277 EV)
Bob Barr/Wayne Root(4%-0 EV)

Care to explain the 2008 Electoral College map Andy?

Whilst I know in your scenario that the Libertarians play the Nader role in this Election, but in my mind it would be highly unlikely that Obama would be able to pick up Indiana and Florida and yet lose Oregon, Minnesota and Pennsylvania at the same time. Obama either wins the latter or he does not.

Especially considering that Florida's demographics are horrible for Obama and he would probably lose it even if he won the election.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2008, 02:48:37 PM »
« Edited: July 17, 2008, 08:40:00 PM by Andy Jackson »

Okay here's the revised map of the 2008 election.


Barack Obama/Bill Richardson(49%-262 EV)
John McCain/Bobby Jindal(47%-276 EV)
Bob Barr/Wayne Root(4%-0 EV)

-Indiana( It has a large population of blacks in the very northern part of the state, also Obama was strong with the populated cities, the Indianapolis-Carmel Metropolitan Area was a strong area for Obama and he squeaked into a victory.)
-Florida(I'll give that to McCain)
-Oregon(That will go to Obama)
-Minnesota(The Republicans squeaked in a victory there after heavy campaigning)
-Pennsylvania(McCain makes some roads in the state but still goes to Obama by about 7%)
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2008, 02:53:43 PM »

Unlikely that any candidate does not win a state with less than 40%
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2008, 03:01:54 PM »

Unlikely that any candidate does not win a state with less than 40%
Okay I changed it from 30% to 40% in Pennsylvania and Minnesota.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2008, 03:17:37 PM »


January 20Th, 2009 had arrived and former President-Elect McCain would officially become the 44Th President of the US. Several days after election night, it became clear to the Republicans that they were in for a battle with the Liberal media, a Democratic House and secrets still circulating about the possibility of the Republicans rigging the 2008 still floated by. Now President McCain's plan to remain in Iraq until a clear victory was a sour taste for the Democrats and the 100 years in Iraq came to mind many times, as for Barack Obama, he returns to Illinois in peace as a "Draft Obama" for the Illinois Governorship circulates in the state. For now the Republicans are guaranteed 4 more years in office.
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2008, 03:32:58 PM »

No way Obama wins IN but loses MI, MN, NH, and PA.
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2008, 03:40:23 PM »

No way Obama wins IN but loses MI, MN, NH, and PA.
As I said Obama barley looses in Minnesota and Pennsylvania, also polls do show that McCain barley wins Michigan and the Libertarian spoiler only makes a McCain victory their more larger. As for New Hampshire I could change that to Obama but I do see a close victory in NH by McCain.
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2008, 03:40:57 PM »


March 24Th, 2010:After only a little over a year in office, President McCain suffered a heart attack, he would be rushed to the nearest hospital but it wouldn't help, President McCain died on the way to the hospital. Vice President Bobby Jindal would be confirmed of the death of John McCain and that he would become the 45Th President of the US. Bobby Jindal was quickly sworn in at the Vice Presidential Office, he soon went out to the West Front were so many Presidents had been sworn in at to give a speech over what had happened today. He would point out the tragedy of this event and that America most mourn but also continue what the former John McCain wanted to do. President McCain would go down into the record books as the oldest presidents and the 2ND shortest presidency's, he would also be remembered by his "Winning with Honor" strategy in Iraq, creating a Gas Tax Holiday which was criticized by the media and the Democrats and the tax cuts he made.
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2008, 04:05:08 PM »


Illinois, the home state of Barack Obama would show the "Draft Obama" would work and a reluctant Obama would declare he would run for the Governorship of Illinois, only a week after Incumbent Governor Rod Blagojevich announced he wouldn't run in 2010 and left his Lt.Governor Pat Quinn to declare he was also running for the Illinois Governorship. As for the Republican side, Bill Brady, a Senator who ran for the Republican nominee in 2006 was the main frontrunner there and easily took the Republican nomination for the Illinois Governorship and chose Carbondale Mayor Brad Cole as his Lt.Governor. The Democrats had a struggle for power with Barack Obama and Pat Quinn but after Obama took the lead, Quinn dropped out and endorsed Obama. Barack Obama would only have token resistance against him and chose the incumbent Lt.Governor Pat Quinn as his Lt.Governor. Now the eve of the Illinois Gubernational Election many say that Obama is a shoe in for Governor but could Obama's loss in the 2008 US election make him lose this election as well?
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2008, 04:43:48 PM »

The Illinois Gubernational Election of 2010

D-Barack Obama/Pat Quinn(49%)
R-Bill Brady/Brad Cole(46%)
G-Julie Samuels/Rodger Jennings(5%)
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2008, 09:23:15 PM »


The conflict that had been forseen for some time now, Iranian President Mahmūd Ahmadinejād declared a "complete cleansing of all the evil Jews from Israel" Missles rained from the sky and onto Israel, which Israeli forces sent their air force to attack in quick retaliation against Iran. Soon pro Israel sentiment grew very quickly in the US and President Jindal pushed thru the declaration of war against Iran. US forces in Iraq and newly deployed troops met up with Israeli forces and pushed into the Iranian homeland, they took out the Iranian missile complexes and began their push towards Tehran.

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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2008, 09:29:38 PM »

How did Mahmūd Ahmadinejād get re-elected, given his current relative unpopularity?
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2008, 09:38:39 PM »

How did Mahmūd Ahmadinejād get re-elected, given his current relative unpopularity?
The major force behind his reelection was mainly speculated as him rigging the election in Iran to stay in power, which riots flared up but were crushed by Iranian forces, this would lead to a major factor in the end to the Iran War with the Iranian Democratic rebels rising up and siding with the US and the allied nations.
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2008, 09:45:11 PM »


After several months into the Iranian War(Iran War), the US and allied forces had slowly converged on Tehran and regular air raids on the city were normal, but Iranian President Mahmūd Ahmadinejād would not give into the slowly encroaching forces. As for the US homefront people staged protests against the Iran War. The US forces were stalling at the edge of the city of Tehran, which would be called the Tehran Wall and this made many people speculate how long US forces will be in Iran.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2008, 10:41:34 PM »


The Tehran Wall was still a problem for allied forces but a large uprising in Tabriz would lead to up flares of Democratic forces, letting allied forces to creep ever closer to Tehran. The new year 2011, was fast approaching and President Bobby Jindal had to find a way to win the Iran War. Now with democratic Iranian rebels on the allied side, military forces move closer to complete the "Anaconda" Plan to encircle Tehran and capture Mahmud Ahmadinejad and ultimately trie him for war crimes.
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2008, 05:52:05 PM »
« Edited: June 15, 2008, 05:57:23 PM by Andy Jackson »

After seven months of heavy fighting in Iran by allied forces, they have broke through the Tehran Wall and have taken the city but Mahmud Ahmadinejad has escaped to the inner part of Iran, but there is strong hope that the allied forces now can easily take the rest of the country. By the eight month of the Iran War, allied forces have enclosed supply lines to the major Iranian pockets of resistance and the end is now inevitable. The nineth month showed the capture of Mahmud Ahmadinejad and his trial by the UN and the establishment of three zones: The US/Israeli Occupied Zone, the UN Zone and the Republic of Iran(Persia), the troops will be coming home soon.
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« Reply #20 on: June 15, 2008, 06:09:34 PM »


It is a celebratory day for America, the troops are coming home from Iran with victory held high and a hope for a stable Middle East. President Jindal gives a speech over all that has happened over the nine months of war with Iran and a victory in Iran means a victory for democracy.
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« Reply #21 on: June 15, 2008, 06:30:46 PM »


Now midway through 2011, candidates apear for the Democratic nominee ranging from Russ Feingold to Howard Dean. With this surge of people, the Democrats hope to capture the White House in 2012.

Demcratic Candidates
-Russ Feingold(Senator from Wisconsin)
-Bill Richardson(VP nominee in 2008, Former Governor of New Mexico)
-Howard Dean(DNC party Chairman)
-Rod Blagojevich(Former Governor of Illinois)
-Joe Biden(Senate Pro Tempore)
-Barbara Boxer(Senator from California)

Other campaigns have gotten underway as well.

Green Candidates
-Kent Mesplay(Green Party delegate)
-Dennis Kucinich(Former Congressman from Ohio)
-Pat LaMarche(VP nominee in 2004)
Libertarian Candidates
-Gary Johnson(Former Governor of New Mexico)
-Mike Gravel(Former Senator from Alaska
-Wayne Root(VP nominee in 2008)
-Mary Ruwart(Activist)
Constitution Candidates
-Darell Castle(VP nominee in 2008)
-Jerome Corsi(Conservative Writer)
-Jim Clymer(CNC party Chairsman)
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2008, 09:02:11 PM »

As the Democrats have a hard and mixed beginning of their primary season, President Bobby Jindal has little opposition to the road for the Republican nomination, only having to face Mitt Romney, who drops out after losing Iowa and New Hampshire. The major front runners for the Democratic nomination are Bill Richardson, Russ Feingold and Joe Biden.
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« Reply #23 on: June 30, 2008, 11:39:14 AM »

Delegate Tally
Russ Feingold - 90 Delegates
Bill Richardson - 54 Delegates
Joe Biden - 53 Delegates
Howard Dean - 21 Delegates
Barbara Boxer - 6 Delegates
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« Reply #24 on: June 30, 2008, 09:15:58 PM »

After the first five primaries ended, Super Tuesday was now ahead but not all the candidates would last that long. After a fight in all of the primaries, Barbara Boxer and Howard Dean officially announced they were dropping out from the presidential race then leaving Feingold, Biden and Richardson in the race.


Primaries won by Russ Feingold
Primaries won by Bill Richardson
Super Tuesday Primaries
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