Are you a Xahar Democrat?

[Albus Dumbledore]

Reminder: Leftist social engineering policies lead to demographic suicide. Either the nation fades away or the native population is replaced by immigrants.

[Хahar 🤔]

Reminder: Leftist social engineering policies lead to demographic suicide. Either the nation fades away or the native population is replaced by immigrants.

The latter is not a bad thing.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Hey, whatever it's your choice I guess. Am willing to brush up on spanish if need be. However, I think our european posters may have different opinions on this. Then again, I suppose it's rare to find a leftist who openly admits their goal is demographic replacement.

[Хahar 🤔]

Hey, whatever it's your choice I guess. Am willing to brush up on spanish if need be. However, I think our european posters may have different opinions on this. Then again, I suppose it's rare to find a leftist who openly admits their goal is demographic replacement.

Not my goal, but we're all equal.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Reminder: Everyone being biologically equal doesn't mean all cultures are of equal level of desirability. I consider Dutch or Canadian or American culture superior to berber or Hindi culture. Why? It's simple the better off ones are the ones who adapt to modern realities. Therefore, those of us in western nations need to let in people more able to integrate into western nations(chinese, latins, christian africans and slavs). Hell, if you want arabic immigrants so much why not let in arab christians?

[Хahar 🤔]

Reminder: Everyone being biologically equal doesn't mean all cultures are of equal level of desirability. I consider Dutch or Canadian or American culture superior to berber or Hindi culture. Why? It's simple the better off ones are the ones who adapt to modern realities. Therefore, those of us in western nations need to let in people more able to integrate into western nations(chinese, latins, christian africans and slavs). Hell, if you want arabic immigrants so much why not let in arab christians?

Not only do I disagree with that comment, it was also personally insulting.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Why is it somehow personally insulting to note that cultural factors such as sexism(burqas anyone), too strong of religious control over society, lack of democratic tradition are holding some nations back such as say Bangladesh from embracing economic development and thus modernity?

[Хahar 🤔]

Why is it somehow personally insulting to note that cultural factors such as sexism(burqas anyone), too strong of religious control over society, lack of democratic tradition are holding some nations back such as say Bangladesh from embracing economic development and thus modernity?

I've been to Bangladesh 5 times. And I'll tell you that the problems don't lie there.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Explain why it's so overpopulated and poor then? And don't cite colonialism. The US was a colony and it's doing fine, Same with Korea and Taiwan.

[Хahar 🤔]

Explain why it's so overpopulated and poor then? And don't cite colonialism. The US was a colony and it's doing fine, Same with Korea and Taiwan.

The US is a white colony that was modeled exactly after the home country. Taiwan and Korea weren't colonies of European nations, so it doesn't compare.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Colonialism is colonialism, Xahar. Or is it only evil if Whites do it?

[Left-Wing Blogger]

The answer is no, of course.

Abortion:
Left - Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal.

Agree. Pro-choice.

Balanced Budget:
Far-Left - A deficit and debt is fine.  Focus on social programs and how the government can better people's lives.

Not quite. Running ourselves bankrupt isn't going to do anybody good. But social programs are excellent.

Business Tax:
Far-Left - Significantly increase business taxation.

I'd be left, not as far. I want to keep Silicon Valley, ya know.

Campaign Finance Reform:
Center-Left - We need to significantly reduce corporate and union donations. Ban soft money contributions.

Agree.

Education:
Left - No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. Modernize school system with more after-school programs.

You think education's expensive, try ignorance. In other words, education should be a top priority. Maybe the.

Environment:
Far-Left - The environment should be our first national priority. Expand National Park System. Large government programs.

Agree mostly, but it shouldn't be a top priority. In some cases, humans come first. Example: Should we shut down the pumps in the San Joaquin River Delta and leave 23 million people and over a million acres without water just to save a 3 inch long fish? I think not.

Free Trade:
Left - We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries and our labor market. Pull out of free trade agreements.

Small tariff barriers and don't pull out of all free trade agreements. Maybe NAFTA, though.

Gun Control:
Left - We need gun control! Ban certain guns. Require registration/background checks. Gun control protects children.

Yes. Agree.

Health Care:
Left - Completely public health care system and include perscription drugs under medicare. Require health insurance for every child.

Make it a free universal health care system. Like Canada. If that means scaling down our military budget, excellent!

Immigration:
Left - Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty.

Yup.

Military Funding:
Left - Decrease funding for weapons and focus on spending for humanitarian relief.

Totally agree.

Military Doctrine:
Far-Left - Remove all U.S. troops from foreign soil. No intervention! Our military need never be used.

No, have to disagree with that. What happens if Pearl Harbor happens again? If a country requests aid, then fine. Just get in, do the job quickly and leave. In the case of say, Darfur, I think military intervention should be used. War for rights is bad, but when several hundred thousand die, that's when a military should be used.

Personal Tax:
Left - Increase income tax for the rich. Reduce for those in lower income bracket.

Yup, typical. Agree.

Social Security:
Far-Left - No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.

Have to agree. Sometimes pensions just aren't enough.

Nation-Building:
Far-Left - We should not meddle in other's cultures, no matter our moral feelings about some events.

Yup. In the case of human sacrifice, though, we might have to do something.

Civil Rights:
Center - Get the federal government out of civil rights. Leave affirmative action and same-sex unions to the states.

I'd be left, but it puts affirmative action and gay unions together. Same-sex couples should be legalized everywhere, while affirmative action should be phased out. Forcibly integrating schools shouldn't be happening. Instead, we should be focusing on making all schools better, not moving people to the better ones.

China:
Center - Monitor China within the World Trade Organization. Defend Taiwan.

Agree.

Crime:
Far-Left - Society makes people bad, punishment worsens it. Rehabilitation is effective. No death penalty and prison industry.

Agree. Death penalty is unconstitutional.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Reminder: In 20 year, if atlas is still around people will come in and read this thread and look on it with horror due to the leftist madness advocated in here. Leftism is dying in the west. In Europe it'll die with revolution by the native europeans and in the US it'll die with the baby boomers. There'll be social liberals and economic populists(neither on the same side often) but no or very few leftists.

[Хahar 🤔]

Reminder: In 20 year, if atlas is still around people will come in and read this thread and look on it with horror due to the leftist madness advocated in here. Leftism is dying in the west. In Europe it'll die with revolution by the native europeans and in the US it'll die with the baby boomers. There'll be social liberals and economic populists(neither on the same side often) but no or very few leftists.

That's as deterministic as Marx ever was.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Abortion:
Left - Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal.

Agree.

Balanced Budget:
Far-Left - A deficit and debt is fine.  Focus on social programs and how the government can better people's lives.

Not really, no.  We should work to reduce the deficit, but not if it means gutting social programs.

Business Tax:
Far-Left - Significantly increase business taxation.

No, cut taxes on small businesses, increase them on big business.

Campaign Finance Reform:
Center-Left - We need to significantly reduce corporate and union donations. Ban soft money contributions.

No.  We should allow anyone to contribute however much they want

Education:
Left - No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. Modernize school system with more after-school programs.

Completely agree.

Environment:
Far-Left - The environment should be our first national priority. Expand National Park System. Large government programs.

Agree mostly, but it shouldn’t be our top priority.

Free Trade:
Left - We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries and our labor market. Pull out of free trade agreements.

We shouldn’t pull out completely, but we should put in some qualifiers, and erect small tariffs.

Gun Control:
Left - We need gun control! Ban certain guns. Require registration/background checks. Gun control protects children.

Completely disagree.

Health Care:
Left - Completely public health care system and include prescription drugs under Medicare. Require health insurance for every child.

Completely agree.

Immigration:
Left - Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty.

No.  Immigrants need to follow the laws in place.  No amnesty.

Military Funding:
Left - Decrease funding for weapons and focus on spending for humanitarian relief.

Totally disagree.  We need to keep our military at its current size, and not cut back on funding.

Military Doctrine:
Far-Left - Remove all U.S. troops from foreign soil. No intervention! Our military need never be used.

No, completely disagree.  The US should maintain its presence throughout the world, although we shouldn’t just run into countries for no reason.

Personal Tax:
Left - Increase income tax for the rich. Reduce for those in lower income bracket.

Agree.

Social Security:
Far-Left - No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.

Agree.

Nation-Building:
Far-Left - We should not meddle in other's cultures, no matter our moral feelings about some events.

Disagree.  If there is cause, we should intervene.

Civil Rights:
Center - Get the federal government out of civil rights. Leave affirmative action and same-sex unions to the states.

I completely oppose affirmative action, and the term “gay marriage.”  Of course, I support giving full marriage benefits to same-sex couples, just not the term.

China:
Center - Monitor China within the World Trade Organization. Defend Taiwan.

Agree.

Crime:
Far-Left - Society makes people bad, punishment worsens it. Rehabilitation is effective. No death penalty and prison industry.

Completely disagree.  The death penalty can be used effectively, and I support longer prison sentences, coupled with rehab programs.

[Albus Dumbledore]

Reminder: In 20 year, if atlas is still around people will come in and read this thread and look on it with horror due to the leftist madness advocated in here. Leftism is dying in the west. In Europe it'll die with revolution by the native europeans and in the US it'll die with the baby boomers. There'll be social liberals and economic populists(neither on the same side often) but no or very few leftists.

That's as deterministic as Marx ever was.

Leftism kills off birthrates and leftists have less kids. Nothing deterministic just demographics.

[dead0man]

Wealth has a lot more to do with birth rates than does ideology.  Leftist economic policies will die because they will continue to prove they don't work.  Sadly it will take a lot longer than 20 years.

[NDN]

Abortion:
Left - Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal.

Agree.

Balanced Budget:
Far-Left - A deficit and debt is fine.  Focus on social programs and how the government can better people's lives.

Not really, no.  We should work to reduce the deficit, but not if it means gutting social programs.

Would you be open to means testing?

Business Tax:
Far-Left - Significantly increase business taxation.

No, cut taxes on small businesses, increase them on big business.

How do you draw the line between the two? Also that would probably just cancel out the effects of business tax cuts on stimulating the economy.

Campaign Finance Reform:
Center-Left - We need to significantly reduce corporate and union donations. Ban soft money contributions.

No.  We should allow anyone to contribute however much they want

All that does is leave politicians indebted to whoever funded them. However, the Supreme Court has made any sort of meaningful caps on donations impossible.

Education:
Left - No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. Modernize school system with more after-school programs.

Completely agree.

Funding isn't the issue in a lot of cases. If it was then Washington DC would have one of the best school systems in the country.

Environment:
Far-Left - The environment should be our first national priority. Expand National Park System. Large government programs.

Agree mostly, but it shouldn’t be our top priority.

Free Trade:
Left - We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries and our labor market. Pull out of free trade agreements.

We shouldn’t pull out completely, but we should put in some qualifiers, and erect small tariffs.

We should only use tariffs if the other country we're trading with does.

Gun Control:
Left - We need gun control! Ban certain guns. Require registration/background checks. Gun control protects children.

Completely disagree.

Health Care:
Left - Completely public health care system and include prescription drugs under Medicare. Require health insurance for every child.

Completely agree.

Immigration:
Left - Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty.

No.  Immigrants need to follow the laws in place.  No amnesty.

How do you intend to deport at least 12 million people, many of which small business have become dependent on? I'm not for amnesty to everyone, they should earn their status. But really.

Military Funding:
Left - Decrease funding for weapons and focus on spending for humanitarian relief.

Totally disagree.  We need to keep our military at its current size, and not cut back on funding.

Why do we need bases in hundreds of countries worldwide, including Europe? What purpose does that serve other than to protect our economic interests? It's certainly not for our defense, because last time I checked we weren't in danger of getting invaded by any of Latin America, the EU or most of Asia.

Military Doctrine:
Far-Left - Remove all U.S. troops from foreign soil. No intervention! Our military need never be used.

No, completely disagree.  The US should maintain its presence throughout the world, although we shouldn’t just run into countries for no reason.

See above. Also being in a country by definition dramatically increases the chance of a skirmish in the first place.

Personal Tax:
Left - Increase income tax for the rich. Reduce for those in lower income bracket.

Agree.

Social Security:
Far-Left - No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.

Agree.

Social Security is an enormous strain on the budget. It already accounts for about a quarter of spending and as the baby boomers age it's only going to become worse. A lot of the people receiving checks right now don't need them. I say we gradually cut spending for the people who can afford to provide for themselves, encourage private savings, and maintain it as more of an emergency program. Unless you want to be stuck with the tab.

Nation-Building:
Far-Left - We should not meddle in other's cultures, no matter our moral feelings about some events.

Disagree.  If there is cause, we should intervene.

No, this is dangerous and ignores the reality that we can't help everyone. Where do you draw the line? Do the actions of North Korea for example, necessitate starting a war? What about some of our allies?

Civil Rights:
Center - Get the federal government out of civil rights. Leave affirmative action and same-sex unions to the states.

I completely oppose affirmative action, and the term “gay marriage.”  Of course, I support giving full marriage benefits to same-sex couples, just not the term.

If you support full rights why do you object so strongly to the term? Because that's 'yours'? Do you have any idea how exclusionary and flat out homophobic that comes across?

Btw they won't get full rights unless you give them the term marriage, Civil Unions vary by location in benefits.

China:
Center - Monitor China within the World Trade Organization. Defend Taiwan.

Agree.

How are you going to do that when they could liquidate our currency at any moment? The US might be able to defeat them militarily, but China literally owns us right now. All they'd have to do is make a few phone calls and we'd be a third world country overnight. Of course they'd implode too but still.

Crime:
Far-Left - Society makes people bad, punishment worsens it. Rehabilitation is effective. No death penalty and prison industry.

Completely disagree.  The death penalty can be used effectively, and I support longer prison sentences, coupled with rehab programs.

The Death Penalty is very ineffective and unjustifiable. The costs are greater than simply incarcerating people due to appeals, there is no evidence of a deterrence effect, and parole for most of the crimes that the death penalty now warrants actually does not ever happen. Then there's the issue of states as recently as this decade mistakingly executing people.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Abortion:
Left - Keep abortion as it is presently. Safe, legal, and rare. Keep partial-birth abortion legal.

Agree.

Balanced Budget:
Far-Left - A deficit and debt is fine.  Focus on social programs and how the government can better people's lives.

Not really, no.  We should work to reduce the deficit, but not if it means gutting social programs.

Would you be open to means testing?
Yes.

Business Tax:
Far-Left - Significantly increase business taxation.

No, cut taxes on small businesses, increase them on big business.
How do you draw the line between the two? Also that would probably just cancel out the effects of business tax cuts on stimulating the economy.
I would probably use a guideline as to how many employees they have, or something of that nature.

Campaign Finance Reform:
Center-Left - We need to significantly reduce corporate and union donations. Ban soft money contributions.

No.  We should allow anyone to contribute however much they want
All that does is leave politicians indebted to whoever funded them. However, the Supreme Court has made any sort of meaningful caps on donations impossible.
I don't like the idea of restricting how much people can give of their own money to a political campaign.  Perhaps cap businesses, but not people.

Education:
Left - No school vouchers, large increase to federal funding. Modernize school system with more after-school programs.

Completely agree.

Funding isn't the issue in a lot of cases. If it was then Washington DC would have one of the best school systems in the country.
That's true, but hopefully the funding increase will go towards keeping the best teachers, and stuff of that nature.

Environment:
Far-Left - The environment should be our first national priority. Expand National Park System. Large government programs.

Agree mostly, but it shouldn’t be our top priority.

Free Trade:
Left - We need to erect large tariff barriers to protect all our industries and our labor market. Pull out of free trade agreements.

We shouldn’t pull out completely, but we should put in some qualifiers, and erect small tariffs.

We should only use tariffs if the other country we're trading with does.
I agree.

Gun Control:
Left - We need gun control! Ban certain guns. Require registration/background checks. Gun control protects children.

Completely disagree.

Health Care:
Left - Completely public health care system and include prescription drugs under Medicare. Require health insurance for every child.

Completely agree.

Immigration:
Left - Immigration is great! The more immigrants the better. Just require a criminal record check. Full blanket-amnesty.

No.  Immigrants need to follow the laws in place.  No amnesty.
How do you intend to deport at least 12 million people, many of which small business have become dependent on? I'm not for amnesty to everyone, they should earn their status. But really.
If immigrants have found jobs, and have not been convicted of crimes, then let them stay until they have become legal citizens, but no amnesty.  Maybe slap a small fine.

Military Funding:
Left - Decrease funding for weapons and focus on spending for humanitarian relief.

Totally disagree.  We need to keep our military at its current size, and not cut back on funding.
Why do we need bases in hundreds of countries worldwide, including Europe? What purpose does that serve other than to protect our economic interests? It's certainly not for our defense, because last time I checked we weren't in danger of getting invaded by any of Latin America, the EU or most of Asia.

I just feel that we can't be too careful nowadays.

Military Doctrine:
Far-Left - Remove all U.S. troops from foreign soil. No intervention! Our military need never be used.

No, completely disagree.  The US should maintain its presence throughout the world, although we shouldn’t just run into countries for no reason.

See above. Also being in a country by definition dramatically increases the chance of a skirmish in the first place.
Most of the places where we have bases are small, and unlikely to create hostilities.

Personal Tax:
Left - Increase income tax for the rich. Reduce for those in lower income bracket.

Agree.

Social Security:
Far-Left - No to any private investment, dramatically increase funding.

Agree.
Social Security is an enormous strain on the budget. It already accounts for about a quarter of spending and as the baby boomers age it's only going to become worse. A lot of the people receiving checks right now don't need them. I say we gradually cut spending for the people who can afford to provide for themselves, encourage private savings, and maintain it as more of an emergency program. Unless you want to be stuck with the tab.
I'm willing to cut funding for people who don't need it, but I can't cut it for people in need of the money.

Nation-Building:
Far-Left - We should not meddle in other's cultures, no matter our moral feelings about some events.

Disagree.  If there is cause, we should intervene.

No, this is dangerous and ignores the reality that we can't help everyone. Where do you draw the line? Do the actions of North Korea for example, necessitate starting a war? What about some of our allies?
If our allies are attacked, we should defend them.  If a country attacks us, we should respond.  I don't want to just move into countries like Reagan did, but we need to be prepared.

Civil Rights:
Center - Get the federal government out of civil rights. Leave affirmative action and same-sex unions to the states.

I completely oppose affirmative action, and the term “gay marriage.”  Of course, I support giving full marriage benefits to same-sex couples, just not the term.
If you support full rights why do you object so strongly to the term? Because that's 'yours'? Do you have any idea how exclusionary and flat out homophobic that comes across?

Btw they won't get full rights unless you give them the term marriage, Civil Unions vary by location in benefits.
I know it sounds horrible, but for me the term "marriage" is between a man and a woman.  I would set a national standard for benefits.

China:
Center - Monitor China within the World Trade Organization. Defend Taiwan.

Agree.
How are you going to do that when they could liquidate our currency at any moment? The US might be able to defeat them militarily, but China literally owns us right now. All they'd have to do is make a few phone calls and we'd be a third world country overnight. Of course they'd implode too but still.
I don't think China would destroy us; because it destroys them, too.

Crime:
Far-Left - Society makes people bad, punishment worsens it. Rehabilitation is effective. No death penalty and prison industry.

Completely disagree.  The death penalty can be used effectively, and I support longer prison sentences, coupled with rehab programs.

The Death Penalty is very ineffective and unjustifiable. The costs are greater than simply incarcerating people due to appeals, there is no evidence of a deterrence effect, and parole for most of the crimes that the death penalty now warrants actually does not ever happen. Then there's the issue of states as recently as this decade mistakingly executing people.

For most crimes, I think there are better options, but some, such as aggravated or multiple murder, rape and murder of a child, and assasination of world leaders deserve the death penalty.

[JohnFKennedy]

Explain why it's so overpopulated and poor then? And don't cite colonialism. The US was a colony and it's doing fine, Same with Korea and Taiwan.

That's possibly one of the most ridiculous things I've seen on these forums and that is really saying something.