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Daniel Adams
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E: 9.03, S: 2.43

« on: June 17, 2008, 02:25:36 PM »

How are Calderon's approval ratings btw?
Quite good. The latest poll I can find (May 25) gives him an approval of 64% and a disapproval of 26%.
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Daniel Adams
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E: 9.03, S: 2.43

« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 02:26:22 PM »

It'd be 220+ electoral votes for the US if it were states. 220+ solid democrat electoral votes that is.
I don't think some of the northern PAN-voting states would be solid Democrat.
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Daniel Adams
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E: 9.03, S: 2.43

« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 02:31:38 PM »

The GOP is currently the party of protestant supremacy so not even the north would vote GOP under current coalitions. Course, adding in Mexico would break the current coalitions so... things get interesting.
Care to substantiate that statement?
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Daniel Adams
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E: 9.03, S: 2.43

« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2008, 06:55:08 PM »

The GOP is currently the party of protestant supremacy so not even the north would vote GOP under current coalitions. Course, adding in Mexico would break the current coalitions so... things get interesting.
Care to substantiate that statement?
Gladly. The GOP's social policy is based on protestant supremacy hence their following the religious right line. They'll either start to drop the policy of attacking non-protestants or see electoral irrelevance in the long run.
Considering that modern American conservatism was basically founded by a Roman Catholic (William F. Buckley), I find that statement rather ironic and deeply ignorant. The social ideals of conservative Catholics and the Protestants you label the "religious right" are virtually identical. As a Catholic, I have yet to feel "attacked" by any current non-fringe GOP politican.

And regarding the fortunes of the Republican Party in Mexico, I think if they emphasized social issues in the Mexican north, they could win a few states. Are there significant differences in social issues betwixt mainstream Republicans and the PAN?
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Daniel Adams
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E: 9.03, S: 2.43

« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 07:12:01 PM »
« Edited: June 17, 2008, 08:51:30 PM by Daniel Adams »

US catholics are culturally more or less protestant in their norms and values so my point still  stands. You want real catholics look at latin america or at western Europe(for examples of actual lapsed catholics Tongue).
If anything, Latin American Catholics are even more conservative. Abortion and gay marriage, for example, are not even part of the political conciousness in many Latin American nations. Wstern Europe is an entirely different matter, of course.

Northern mexican conservatism is I believe more economic than social so I'm not entirely sure the current GOP strategy of focusing on social issues('All White jesus all the time!') is going to help there.
I do not claim to be a expert on Mexican politics so I'm going out on a limb here, but the PAN is a Christian Democratic party rather than a conservative one in the American sense. As I understand it, Christian Democrats are much more populistic economically and skeptical of classical liberalism then it "hurts the poor" (reminds me somewhat of the Huckabee wing of the GOP). In fact, the Wikipedia article (not a reliable source, I know, but still) puts a lot more emphasis on the social conservatism of the PAN than on their economic policy.

I'm agnostic but have noticed that catholics are significantly less prone to fundamentalism(in the modern era) than catholics.
Assuming you meant to type than Protestants, certainly not in rural Latin America...
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