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« Reply #25 on: June 19, 2008, 11:02:46 AM »

Yes.

Walter is quite dumb if he honestly thinks ND is where most dry municipalities are. As I said earlier, they're illegal there, so why is he using that state as an example? But hey, can't expect Walter to make sense.

Oh come on....Isn't it obvious he randomly named a place?
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« Reply #26 on: June 19, 2008, 12:13:04 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2008, 12:15:33 PM by dead0man »

As a teetotaler and a resident of a dry county, I say that the entire concept of a "dry county" is completely ridiculous.  If you don't want to buy alcohol, don't buy any (that's what I do).  Don't force others to live like you.
Yet you hate tobacco companies and want incredibly gun control?  Why is tabacco so much worse than alcohol?  Personally I only use the latter, but your statement is absurd
Because some people (not alcoholics) can have a glass of wine or beer or whatever and move on and be fine.  You can't just casually smoke or shoot people without problems, but you can do so with alcohol.
Yep, and it takes one night of drinking and you can kill yourself and others.  One night of smoking and you smell bad.  There are few things dumber than somebody arguing drinking is somehow "safer" than smoking.

...and millions of bullets go into backstops and down gun ranges for every one that strikes human flesh.  Sport shooting is no more dangerous than going out for an evening of drinking.  Link drinking, it's only dangerous if you're an idiot.
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« Reply #27 on: June 19, 2008, 12:41:21 PM »
« Edited: June 19, 2008, 12:48:04 PM by The Water vs. The Anchor »

Yes.

Walter is quite dumb if he honestly thinks ND is where most dry municipalities are. As I said earlier, they're illegal there, so why is he using that state as an example? But hey, can't expect Walter to make sense.

Oh come on....Isn't it obvious he randomly named a place?

Replace "podunk north dakota" with "new york city" and you could've also just randomly named a place...and the comment is no more f**king retarded. Why not pick a place where counties often are dry (like Kentucky) rather than an area that would never go dry in a million years?

Besides it's fundie Christian areas that go dry. North Dakota generally HATES fundies. Like to the point of where members of fundie Pentecostal churches have their windows broken and receive frequent death threats. That lady in the movie Jesus Camp was forced to close her camp because of the vandalism and death threats she got, also she's basically the subject of a mass shunning now.
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« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2008, 01:12:02 PM »

As a teetotaler and a resident of a dry county, I say that the entire concept of a "dry county" is completely ridiculous.  If you don't want to buy alcohol, don't buy any (that's what I do).  Don't force others to live like you.
Yet you hate tobacco companies and want incredibly gun control?  Why is tabacco so much worse than alcohol?  Personally I only use the latter, but your statement is absurd
Because some people (not alcoholics) can have a glass of wine or beer or whatever and move on and be fine.  You can't just casually smoke or shoot people without problems, but you can do so with alcohol.
1.) You do realize that most people owns guns for hunting not randomly going on killing sprees, right?
2.) If you drink and drive, you can definetly kill people, drinking and smoking does not do the same

Do you honestly believe smoking is more dangerous than alcohol?  If you smoke too much your lungs are the only ones effected
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« Reply #29 on: June 19, 2008, 01:41:21 PM »

As a teetotaler and a resident of a dry county, I say that the entire concept of a "dry county" is completely ridiculous.  If you don't want to buy alcohol, don't buy any (that's what I do).  Don't force others to live like you.
Yet you hate tobacco companies and want incredibly gun control?  Why is tabacco so much worse than alcohol?  Personally I only use the latter, but your statement is absurd
Because some people (not alcoholics) can have a glass of wine or beer or whatever and move on and be fine.  You can't just casually smoke or shoot people without problems, but you can do so with alcohol.
1.) You do realize that most people owns guns for hunting not randomly going on killing sprees, right?
2.) If you drink and drive, you can definetly kill people, drinking and smoking does not do the same

Do you honestly believe smoking is more dangerous than alcohol?  If you smoke too much your lungs are the only ones effected

Right...because secondhand smoking is as phony as man-made global warming.
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« Reply #30 on: June 19, 2008, 02:13:54 PM »

As a teetotaler and a resident of a dry county, I say that the entire concept of a "dry county" is completely ridiculous.  If you don't want to buy alcohol, don't buy any (that's what I do).  Don't force others to live like you.
Yet you hate tobacco companies and want incredibly gun control?  Why is tabacco so much worse than alcohol?  Personally I only use the latter, but your statement is absurd
Because some people (not alcoholics) can have a glass of wine or beer or whatever and move on and be fine.  You can't just casually smoke or shoot people without problems, but you can do so with alcohol.
1.) You do realize that most people owns guns for hunting not randomly going on killing sprees, right?
2.) If you drink and drive, you can definetly kill people, drinking and smoking does not do the same

Do you honestly believe smoking is more dangerous than alcohol?  If you smoke too much your lungs are the only ones effected

Right...because secondhand smoking is as phony as man-made global warming.
Smokehand smoke is much less dangerous than drunk driving imho.  Either way I think you will agree that it is ridiculous to think one is safe and the other is not.
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« Reply #31 on: June 19, 2008, 02:44:48 PM »

...and millions of bullets go into backstops and down gun ranges for every one that strikes human flesh.  Sport shooting is no more dangerous than going out for an evening of drinking.  Link drinking, it's only dangerous if you're an idiot.
no sh**t.  That's why I don't support complete outlawing of handguns, only regulation, and less regulation for rifles.

1.) You do realize that most people owns guns for hunting not randomly going on killing sprees, right?
Again, I have never advocated strict regulation/bannation of hunting rifles.  Only for handguns whose primary purpose to kill someone.

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Notice I only said have a singular drink or two.  I strongly oppose drunkeness and think that bars should not be able to serve more than a couple drinks to people, and not at all to people who appear to be drunk.  I agree wholehearted that we should cut down on drunk driving.
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« Reply #32 on: June 20, 2008, 08:05:02 PM »

I strongly oppose restrictions on bars.
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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2008, 05:58:20 AM »

Like others in this topic, I don't believe the federal government has the right to do this, and I think it's a ridiculous idea, but if individual counties want to do this, it's their time and effort to waste.
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« Reply #34 on: June 24, 2008, 04:23:17 PM »

Yes, there should have been an amendment against it when we repealed prohibition.
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« Reply #35 on: June 24, 2008, 04:26:37 PM »

But But States Rights.
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« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2008, 09:17:50 AM »

I'm still amused at how f**king stupid Walter's example of North Dakota in this thread was. Does that guy have any clue?
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« Reply #37 on: November 19, 2008, 09:29:18 PM »

i think dry counties and towns are ridiculous and pointless.  at the same time, if podunk county north dakota wants to be 'dry'...more power to them.

There are no dry municipalities in North Dakota. It's one of the 17 states that ban them.

it shouldnt be a federal or state issue.

it is a local issue.



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That said - a state CAN ban them if they want. The federal government cannot.
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« Reply #38 on: November 19, 2008, 09:45:03 PM »

Yes, they should.
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« Reply #39 on: November 19, 2008, 09:48:24 PM »

there is no reason for them to be allowed we need to not allow states to set idiotic alcohol regulations
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« Reply #40 on: November 19, 2008, 10:57:08 PM »


If the residents of that county vote for it to be "dry," then I see no issue here.
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« Reply #41 on: November 19, 2008, 11:00:12 PM »

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Dry counties are about as lame as it gets.    
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« Reply #42 on: November 20, 2008, 12:02:23 AM »

Dry counties suck, but if that's how the locals want it.....

how many of them are there?  how many people are effected by it?  It's mostly the rural south right?  Who cares?
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« Reply #43 on: November 20, 2008, 12:23:20 AM »

     Yes. Why should a bunch of rednecks be able to revoke one's ability to drink alcohol?
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« Reply #44 on: November 20, 2008, 01:36:27 AM »

     Yes. Why should a bunch of rednecks be able to revoke one's ability to drink alcohol?
You can drink in these places, just no purchase.

We live in a free country and are allowed to move if we don't like the local laws.  I think dry counties are stupid as hell, but I don't have a problem with sh**t counties in BFE doing it.  Who'd want to live in a place that uptight anyway?
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« Reply #45 on: November 20, 2008, 01:56:08 AM »

     Yes. Why should a bunch of rednecks be able to revoke one's ability to drink alcohol?
You can drink in these places, just no purchase.

We live in a free country and are allowed to move if we don't like the local laws.  I think dry counties are stupid as hell, but I don't have a problem with sh**t counties in BFE doing it.  Who'd want to live in a place that uptight anyway?

     Meh. I've always wondered what was so great about moving to avoid one's rights being infringed as opposed to just stopping the rednecks from just infringing one's rights in the first place.

     In one case, the government is acting to protect the interests of the citizenry and in the other, it is allowed to bar the citizenry from purchasing alcohol. It seems to me like it would be ideal to prevent oppressive activities from governments (even local ones).
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« Reply #46 on: November 20, 2008, 04:02:37 AM »

     Yes. Why should a bunch of rednecks be able to revoke one's ability to drink alcohol?
You can drink in these places, just no purchase.

We live in a free country and are allowed to move if we don't like the local laws.  I think dry counties are stupid as hell, but I don't have a problem with sh**t counties in BFE doing it.  Who'd want to live in a place that uptight anyway?

     Meh. I've always wondered what was so great about moving to avoid one's rights being infringed as opposed to just stopping the rednecks from just infringing one's rights in the first place.

     In one case, the government is acting to protect the interests of the citizenry and in the other, it is allowed to bar the citizenry from purchasing alcohol. It seems to me like it would be ideal to prevent oppressive activities from governments (even local ones).

What if you can't just up and move?  Employment isn't exactly easy to find these days, and if you have a family to feed.  You should be able to drink all you want.  As long as it doesn't cause you to beat your wife and kids, but that's a whole other issue.

"It doesn't work to leap a twenty-foot chasm in two ten-foot jumps."
No idea who said that, and I'm to lazy to look it up.
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2008, 05:55:48 AM »

     Yes. Why should a bunch of rednecks be able to revoke one's ability to drink alcohol?
You can drink in these places, just no purchase.

We live in a free country and are allowed to move if we don't like the local laws.  I think dry counties are stupid as hell, but I don't have a problem with sh**t counties in BFE doing it.  Who'd want to live in a place that uptight anyway?

     Meh. I've always wondered what was so great about moving to avoid one's rights being infringed as opposed to just stopping the rednecks from just infringing one's rights in the first place.

     In one case, the government is acting to protect the interests of the citizenry and in the other, it is allowed to bar the citizenry from purchasing alcohol. It seems to me like it would be ideal to prevent oppressive activities from governments (even local ones).

What if you can't just up and move?  Employment isn't exactly easy to find these days, and if you have a family to feed.  You should be able to drink all you want.  As long as it doesn't cause you to beat your wife and kids, but that's a whole other issue.

"It doesn't work to leap a twenty-foot chasm in two ten-foot jumps."
No idea who said that, and I'm to lazy to look it up.

     That's kind of what I was thinking. If avoiding oppressive laws was always as simple as moving somewhere else, blacks in the South could have all just moved north after Reconstruction ended. Many did, but it certainly wasn't practical for everyone.
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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2008, 06:57:17 AM »

Yes, since they cause more drunk driving incidents to occur as people have to drive tipsy longer to get home from bars and other such establishments.
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« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2008, 08:12:27 AM »

     Meh. I've always wondered what was so great about moving to avoid one's rights being infringed as opposed to just stopping the rednecks from just infringing one's rights in the first place.

Buying alcohol is not a right.
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