FL: Rasmussen: McCain ahead by 8 in FL

[Wiz in Wis]

New Poll: Florida President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-18

Summary: D: 39%, R: 47%, U: 8%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

[DownWithTheLeft]

Seems about right, wouldn't be surprised if McCain won by double digits

[JohnCA246]

I don't mean to write off this survey, but it looks like it was mainly a survey about offshore drilling, and at the end they asked who they wanted fro president.  I think the wording had a big impact.  I still expect McCain to win this state in Nov., but it may explain the huge difference in numbers.  This one's wording is almost like a push poll.

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Rasmussen Reports conducted a special Florida survey to measure the immediate impact of the offshore drilling issue on the Presidential race. As one part of the survey, respondents were told that McCain favored offshore drilling and said it would bring down the price of gas and oil. They were also told that Barack Obama opposed offshore drilling and said it would not bring down the price of gas and oil. After hearing the views of both McCain and Obama, most Florida voters agreed with McCain--61% said it was likely that offshore drilling would reduce gas prices. Only 34% disagreed and said that offshore drilling would not accomplish that goal.

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But I guess it contradicts that when it says

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However, after voters were told that McCain favored offshore drilling and Obama opposed it, McCain’s lead increased to eleven points, 49% to 38%.

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[Kaine for Senate '18]

This seems off, just like the polls showing Obama up 5.  It's probably McCain +3-4 right now.

[Franzl]

Seems about right, wouldn't be surprised if McCain won by double digits

But it doesn't seem right when Obama is leading nationally by the margin he is currently.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I just saw this quoted on MyDD, right above a shameless slug advocating that Democrats sell their souls and back offshore drilling for sheer partisan advantage:

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[CARLHAYDEN]

New Poll: Florida President by Rasmussen on 2008-06-18

Summary: D: 39%, R: 47%, U: 8%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

Six per cent said they would vote for some other candidate.

[JohnCA246]

Certainly seems like  McCain state still.  Even Kerry was winning some Florida polls at the end of 04.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Looks more accurate than the polls having Obama up double digits in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and comfortably in Florida.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Looks more accurate than the polls having Obama up double digits in Ohio, Pennsylvania, and comfortably in Florida.

True, but neither of these are accurate.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I'd put FL at GOP + 9 this year. Its probably a 4-5 pt lead right now for McCain.

[agcatter]

LOL.  I'm sure AP will be all over this poll just like the three polls yesterday they were having an orgasm over.

[Josh/Devilman88]

Seems right, I kinda knew them polls showing FL Obama land were a little off.

[ottermax]

I don't understand how Floridians would support drilling off of their own coastline...

[Brittain33]

LOL.  I'm sure AP will be all over this poll just like the three polls yesterday they were having an orgasm over.

Back from hiding all yesterday?

[Verily]

I don't understand how Floridians would support drilling off of their own coastline...

Because people are morons. They don't understand anything about offshore oil drilling. Rasmussen's question explicitly stated that offshore oil drilling would, unequivocably, reduce oil and gas prices, which is simply not true as anything substantive and misleading in any case as any minimal reductions achieved would come, not within a few months, but within a few decades.

[Democratic Hawk]

I don't understand how Floridians would support drilling off of their own coastline...

Because people are morons. They don't understand anything about offshore oil drilling. Rasmussen's question explicitly stated that offshore oil drilling would, unequivocably, reduce oil and gas prices, which is simply not true as anything substantive and misleading in any case as any minimal reductions achieved would come, not within a few months, but within a few decades.

Is it any wonder people favor offshore oil drilling if they are led to believe that it would reduce oil and gas prices? And, like yourself, I'm not convinced it would

Dave

[classical liberal]

I don't understand how Floridians would support drilling off of their own coastline...

Because people are morons. They don't understand anything about offshore oil drilling. Rasmussen's question explicitly stated that offshore oil drilling would, unequivocably, reduce oil and gas prices, which is simply not true as anything substantive and misleading in any case as any minimal reductions achieved would come, not within a few months, but within a few decades.

Is it any wonder people favor offshore oil drilling if they are led to believe that it would reduce oil and gas prices? And, like yourself, I'm not convinced it would

Dave

Is it any wonder people favor offshore oil drilling the opposition candidate for president if they are led to believe that it would reduce oil and gas prices the president has any effect on the state of the economy vis-a-vis the business cycle?

In any case, legalizing offshore drilling, because it would have a date certain for effecting supply levels, would have an immediate effect on prices, because there would be less of an impetus to stockpile current supplies for future shortfalls (i.e. less impetus to buy low because it is less likely that you will be able to sell quite as high as you would have imputed prior to the legalization).  In contrast, investing in alternative fuels will also have a (probably larger) effect on prices, but since there is no date certain for introduction of that future shortfall mitigating influence on the impetus to stockpile current supplies, there is no benchmark that market actors can reference in order to accurately price in the risk of potentially disruptive future technologies (besides back-of-the-napkin estimates) mitigating the supply crunch and thereby lowering prices.  As such, the best of both worlds approach would be to allow rocky mountain shale oil and outer continental shelf oil onto the market and use the royalties to invest in alternate fuels (which would never make it through the Democrat-controlled congress, since they will inevitably yield to the temptation, as they did on the measure to double spending on basic scientific research, to spend that money on LIHEAP, the dole a.k.a. Unemployment "Insurance", and a plethora of additional schemes to buy the votes of poor people by directing taxpayers money to them).

[Sam Spade]

Trust is not to be given to any Florida poll, excluding Mason-Dixon of course.

[ChrisFromNJ]

LOL at McCain up 8 in Florida.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Seems about right, wouldn't be surprised if McCain won by double digits

But it doesn't seem right when Obama is leading nationally by the margin he is currently.

Sure it does, demographically its probably his worst state

[Kaine for Senate '18]

In 2004, Florida was GOP + 1.5.  I don't see it being more than GOP + 5 this year.

[Sam Spade]

In 2004, Florida was GOP + 1.5.  I don't see it being more than GOP + 5 this year.

Clearly math is not your strong suit.  It was +2.5 in 2004.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

In 2004, Florida was GOP + 1.5.  I don't see it being more than GOP + 5 this year.

Clearly math is not your strong suit.  It was +2.5 in 2004.

Crap

[Franzl]

Seems about right, wouldn't be surprised if McCain won by double digits

But it doesn't seem right when Obama is leading nationally by the margin he is currently.

Sure it does, demographically its probably his worst state

So you're saying a national swing towards Obama is totally irrelevant in Florida?

And there are far worse states demographically. LOL