Is the effect of the VP greatly overrated on this forum?

[they don't love you like i love you]

Yes. Though "greatly overrated" might be an understatement.

OMG HOW ABOUT AN OBAMA/LAMPSON TICKET SO OBAMA WILL BE COMPETITIVE IN TEXAS?

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Yes, but not by everyone.

[Torie]

That is the tendency, but I think it is done more just out of not having anything else to chat about.

[Хahar 🤔]

Yes, but not by everyone.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Yes, but not by everyone.

You however are one of them, such as for example IIRC predicting Biden would give Obama a 5-point boost in Delaware.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Yes, but not by everyone.

You however are one of them, such as for example IIRC predicting Biden would give Obama a 5-point boost in Delaware.

When the hell did I do that?

[CPT MikeyMike]

It is more of the speculation and the guessing game we're all playing is making the hype here.

Predicting is half the fun of elections.

[Mr. Morden]

Yes, it's overrated.  But this problem is hardly limited to this forum.  Most political pundits who actually get paid for their analysis make the same mistake.

[Хahar 🤔]

Old, but a gem;

I'm just saying that a Sebelius nomination would close to clinch Kansas, I just got back from there and everyone I talked to liked her.

[JSojourner]

That is the tendency, but I think it is done more just out of not having anything else to chat about.

Yep.  And it's fun.  It reminds me of weekly pigskin picks when I worked outside the home.  We'd all prognosticate, crunch numbers, assess strengths and weaknesses and finally predict exactly what chance each of the NFL teams had every week in their various games. 

But truly, the voting public certainly cares about the VP choice.  But not that much.  Lightweights like Dan Quayle and John Edwards hardly hurt the top of the ticket that much.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Old, but a gem;

I'm just saying that a Sebelius nomination would close to clinch Kansas, I just got back from there and everyone I talked to liked her.

That has nothing to do with the running mate of the ticket.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'm waiting for that Biden quote.

[they don't love you like i love you]

It was awhile back in some "Predict these states" thread and for Delaware you tossed on a "an additional 5% if Biden is the running mate" or something like that. I hope I can find it.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

It was awhile back in some "Predict these states" thread and for Delaware you tossed on a "an additional 5% if Biden is the running mate" or something like that. I hope I can find it.

Please find it; I don't remember doing that.

[Stranger in a strange land]

yes, for example those who predict that Sibelius will put Obama over the top in Kansas or that Michael Bloomberg will help McCain win Minnesota!

However, some of the younger posters might not grasp that it's highly unusual for a president and vice president to have the same relationship that George W. Bush and Dick Cheney do.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Yes, but I think it will subside some after the VPs are picked.

[they don't love you like i love you]

It's not just young posters. The most retarded VP statement ever on the forum comes from WalterMitty who said Joe Manchin would help Obama with working class whites through the whole Midwest.

Yes, I can just see this scene now in rural Ohio:

Guy A: Hey did you hear who Obama chose as his running mate?
Guy B: No, who?
Guy A: Joe Manchin.
Guy B: Uh, who's that?
Guy A: The Governor of West Virginia.
Guy B: Oh wow, now I'm totally sold and voting for that negro! No way I would've voted for him before, but he picked a running mate from a state that's somewhat similar to the area I live in! I'm behind him 100% now!
Guy A: Yes, me too!

[they don't love you like i love you]

I should bump this as it's happening again.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

It seems no more overrated here than in the rest of the punditocracy.

[7,052,770]

For what it's worth, I know a handful of people (mostly older relatives) who would be more comfortable voting for Obama if he picked a moderate white Southerner as his running mate.

[HappyWarrior]

Old, but a gem;

I'm just saying that a Sebelius nomination would close to clinch Kansas, I just got back from there and everyone I talked to liked her.

Thanks alot Xahar.  That was before I really started studying and researching thank you very much.

[Хahar 🤔]

Old, but a gem;

I'm just saying that a Sebelius nomination would close to clinch Kansas, I just got back from there and everyone I talked to liked her.

Thanks alot Xahar.  That was before I really started studying and researching thank you very much.

Doesn't mean I can't use it.

[Mr. Morden]

My current pet peeve with the VP talk is how everyone "knows" who's on the shortlist, as if they actually have some kind of deep insight into the campaigns' thinking.  Examples:

I believe the short list is down to Romney, Portman, and Pawlenty.....

At this point I'm almost completely sure it'll be Romney.

I still think Pawlenty, Crist and even Fiorina are still in the running though.

Of course I, and everyone else, really have no idea whatsoever.

Lol.  "I'm almost completely sure", yet "I really have no idea whatsoever"?

Seriously, we need a comedy goldmine thread specifically targeted to VP discussion.

[The Duke]

Some VP choices would have a huge impact.

Ed Rendell, Ted Strickland, Jim Webb, Tim Pawlenty*, Charlie Crist and others have the potential to swing a state one way or the other.  That's big, so don't pretend it isn't.

*-Personally, I continue to believe Pawlenty does not swing Minnesota, but some argue otherwise.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Some VP choices would have a huge impact.

Ed Rendell, Ted Strickland, Jim Webb, Tim Pawlenty*, Charlie Crist and others have the potential to swing a state one way or the other.  That's big, so don't pretend it isn't.

*-Personally, I continue to believe Pawlenty does not swing Minnesota, but some argue otherwise.

None of those do. Rendell is a guy in a state that Obama'll win anyway, Strickland is a guy with a 54% approval rating who had no impact in SUSA's VP polls (yeah those are idiotic, but they might have some validity if candidates have name recognition, which Strickland did), Webb is a freshman Senator who won by less than 10,000 votes, Pawlenty, well I've said enough, but "some" appears to equal on this forum only "quasi-troll Vander Blubb" and no one I've ever heard with any real credibility, including anyone who really knows Minnesota politics, and Crist is a guy from a state where McCain is completely screwed if he needs any assistance winning in the first place.