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« on: June 26, 2008, 09:17:58 am »
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SCOTUM just confirmed that individuals have a right to bear arms.  Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2008, 09:19:10 am »
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Kennedy votes with the conservatives today. Sad

He is indeed the most powerful person in America right now.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2008, 09:26:25 am »
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Excellent ruling!!!  Note to gun opponents:  Guns do not kill people, people do.
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My earlier comment notwithstanding, I do think that the site would be better off if Inks left his position. (The fact that the village idiot has dropped in to express his support for him only confirms this.)
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2008, 09:26:36 am »
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I guess I can look forward to the local news being dominated on this topic tonight.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2008, 09:33:25 am »
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Excellent ruling!!!  Note to gun opponents:  Guns do not kill people, people do.
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2008, 09:35:54 am »
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We all knew this was going nowhere.

Can you imagine the s**tstorm this would have caused if they'd gone against the 2nd?


....even if I think it is the right thing to do (ok people we all know where I stand - and I know where y'all stand on this - no need to start it up).
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2008, 09:41:24 am »
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Good. Now if we can rollback state gun control laws too...
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2008, 09:47:34 am »
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Judicial Activism!!
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2008, 09:51:32 am »
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Good news!
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2008, 09:52:13 am »
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Good. Now if we can rollback state gun control laws too...

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Kennedy votes with the conservatives today.

He is indeed the most powerful person biggest flip-flopper in America right now.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2008, 10:01:35 am »
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SCOTUM
Just noticed that.
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2008, 10:27:02 am »
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Excellent ruling!!!  Note to gun opponents:  Guns do not kill people, people do.
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« Reply #12 on: June 26, 2008, 11:49:44 am »
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Excellent ruling!!!  Note to gun opponents:  Guns do not kill people, people do.

Scalia not only wrote the correct opinion, but a history of gun rights in the United States and England prior to the American Revolution.
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« Reply #13 on: June 26, 2008, 11:52:28 am »
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Funny how Scalia can be so constitutionally wrong one week (Gitmo) and be constitutionally right the next (gun rights).
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« Reply #14 on: June 26, 2008, 12:02:08 pm »
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Funny how Scalia can be so constitutionally wrong one week (Gitmo) and be constitutionally right the next (gun rights).

I loved Scalia's dissent from the Gitmo ruling. Sounds like it came right from the White House.
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« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2008, 12:02:36 pm »
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Very good news.
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« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2008, 12:36:08 pm »
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Funny how Scalia can be so constitutionally wrong one week (Gitmo) and be constitutionally right the next (gun rights).

Scalia votes politically, with no thought of the constitution other than as a sort of cover story.

And of course guns do kill people, since most murders are of a passionate nature and largely thwarted by practical difficulties like like of effective tools.
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2008, 01:33:39 pm »
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Funny how Scalia can be so constitutionally wrong one week (Gitmo) and be constitutionally right the next (gun rights).
Correct. The point is that he is a Republican Justice, not an Originalist Justice. He taught himself today the value of the constitution being read in a reasonable fashion. Then again, he read between the lines in Bush v. Gore and of course, Scalia has his own Substantive Due Process test that allows for constitutional protection of all things that America has a "traditional" history of protection.
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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2008, 01:52:27 pm »
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Note to gun opponents:  Guns do not kill people, people do.

I'm a strong supporter of gun rights. But that line is perhaps the most ridiculous political slogan in political discourse today; please never utter it again.

As to the actual subject matter: On the threshold question of whether the Second Amendment protects any meaningful private right, this decision was so obviously sound, that it's frankly somewhat disheartening that four justices could dissent on that point.

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Funny how Scalia can be so constitutionally wrong one week (Gitmo) and be constitutionally right the next (gun rights).

Curious. Did you read his opinion in each case; judiciously examine the historical materials; contrast his reasoning with various competing arguments; and then arrive at this conclusion? Or did you simply pick the result that strikes you as more intuitively just, and assume it must be correct? (There is admittedly middle ground, but few seem to occupy it.)
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2008, 02:01:08 pm »
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Scalia basically argued that we'd suffer another terrorist attack because of that ruling
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2008, 02:24:46 pm »
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Its a great day to be an American, indeed.
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« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2008, 02:30:09 pm »
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I'm just happy the left's only argument here is "Scalia sucks!".  I like when the bad guys know they've lost.
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2008, 02:33:49 pm »
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I'm just happy the left's only argument here is "Scalia sucks!".  I like when the bad guys know they've lost.

Well, he does suck.
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2008, 02:34:51 pm »
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I'm just happy the left's only argument here is "Scalia sucks!".  I like when the bad guys know they've lost.

Well, he does suck.

Not always.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2008, 02:51:29 pm »
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the Court made the right choice.
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