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Question: If American society remains palpable into the 22nd and 23rd century, which story will probably best describe it-
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A Liberal Dystopia, like A Brave New World
 
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A Center-Left Utopia, like Star Trek
 
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A Center-Right/Neo Liberal Dystopia, like Jennifer Government
 
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A Right-wing Nationalist state, like in Starship Troopers
 
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A far-right social-conservative Dystopia, like in A Handmaiden's Tale
 
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A nominally  far-left-wing Totalitarian state, as found in 1984
 
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American Culture and Political Economy will be pretty stable for the next 100 or 150 years.
 
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We will see the End of The United States relatively soon, so this issue will be moot.
 
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Other (Please Explain)
 
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« Reply #25 on: July 01, 2008, 04:05:39 PM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.
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« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2008, 04:07:43 PM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.
Not exactly, I would say it is becoming more classical liberal in most places though but more social democratic lots of areas of the world as well. I think this trend will change slowly.
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« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2008, 04:10:09 PM »

I don't think the US will survive intact through the next century.  Economic downturns will force some of the more prosperous states to leave the sinking ship.
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« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2008, 07:25:11 PM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

Actually, America is farther right than almost every other First World country. The lack of a viable socialist party is one clear indicator of this.
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« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2008, 11:01:31 AM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 
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« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2008, 11:15:06 AM »

Two or three centuries down the road is too far to make that sort of prediction. Various disasters, wars, and technological innovations that we can't predict will happen and those could have any number of cultural effects. It would be like having someone from two hundred years ago trying to predict what our culture would be like today not knowing things like the internet was invented or about the Cold War or any number of things like that which have significantly shaped our culture.
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« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2008, 11:20:53 AM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.
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« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2008, 11:23:11 AM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.

Cnaada has the NDP. France has a viable Communist party.
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« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2008, 11:23:25 AM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.
That's just two countries. In Germany, Angela Merkel's government has moved to the left significantly and is still fairly unpopular. In Norway, Labour has been elected to power, in Sweeden the Social Democrats still have a majority. In the Netherlands there is resurgent Socialist Party, taking much power from the more moderate PvDa.
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« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2008, 11:24:32 AM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.

Cnaada has the NDP. France has a viable Communist party.
Uhhhhhhh not really. It is pretty undisputable that France is moving towards the right anyways but Canada is really just holding steady right now.
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« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2008, 11:32:09 AM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.

Harper took 36% in the last federal election, that's not a huge majority.

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.

Cnaada has the NDP. France has a viable Communist party.
Uhhhhhhh not really. It is pretty undisputable that France is moving towards the right anyways but Canada is really just holding steady right now.

France is not the only European country moving towards the right.
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« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2008, 12:00:06 PM »

The question will be if it the US will be Right-Authoritarian or Right-Libertarian. Same, to a lesser extent, with the left.
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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2008, 12:33:19 PM »

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.

Harper took 36% in the last federal election, that's not a huge majority.

The world in general is becoming more conservative...but America is still rather center.

I pretty much agree with that. However, we have maxed out in our conservatism in the U.S. and may soon max out else where. 

True. Canada, France...all elected politicans more "friendly" towards Conservatism.

Cnaada has the NDP. France has a viable Communist party.
Uhhhhhhh not really. It is pretty undisputable that France is moving towards the right anyways but Canada is really just holding steady right now.

France is not the only European country moving towards the right.
I know but I was just pointing out his example.
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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2008, 01:18:56 PM »

more urban and browner.  watered down white nationalism will become more popular.
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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2008, 02:07:46 PM »

more urban and browner.  watered down white nationalism will become more popular.
I actually have to agree with Boss Tweed to an extent. I also expect to see lots of the Midwest and Plains become more nationalistic and conservative as they are the last place with lots of minorities and are protestant/probably more athiestic in the future. The country as a whole actually might be more religious, America will probably be undisputedly the most conservative first world nation(socially) but we will probably also become more Socialist.
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« Reply #40 on: July 02, 2008, 04:50:06 PM »

more urban and browner.  watered down white nationalism will become more popular.
I actually have to agree with Boss Tweed to an extent. I also expect to see lots of the Midwest and Plains become more nationalistic and conservative as they are the last place with lots of minorities and are protestant/probably more athiestic in the future. The country as a whole actually might be more religious, America will probably be undisputedly the most conservative first world nation(socially) but we will probably also become more Socialist.

I really don't see that happening without the rest of the world becoming more socially conservative as well. Generally, when the economy strengthens, and people become more educated, the nation's social issues will become more libertarian.

I think that in the next 20 years, drugs and gays will get a lot more attention and abortion will either fade out or a comprimise will be reached. I think Immigration will probably slow down on its own in about 10 years, providing that there are no civil wars.

I think biotechnology will could be a BIG factor on future policy


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« Reply #41 on: July 02, 2008, 06:01:07 PM »
« Edited: July 02, 2008, 06:06:32 PM by General Meade »

more urban and browner.  watered down white nationalism will become more popular.
I actually have to agree with Boss Tweed to an extent. I also expect to see lots of the Midwest and Plains become more nationalistic and conservative as they are the last place with lots of minorities and are protestant/probably more athiestic in the future. The country as a whole actually might be more religious, America will probably be undisputedly the most conservative first world nation(socially) but we will probably also become more Socialist.

I really don't see that happening without the rest of the world becoming more socially conservative as well. Generally, when the economy strengthens, and people become more educated, the nation's social issues will become more libertarian.

I think that in the next 20 years, drugs and gays will get a lot more attention and abortion will either fade out or a comprimise will be reached. I think Immigration will probably slow down on its own in about 10 years, providing that there are no civil wars.

I think biotechnology will could be a BIG factor on future policy



I think you misunderstood me. We will go through lots of progressivism for the next, say 20 or 30 years, but after this we wil stay stagnant while the rest of the world slowly progresses. This will make us the most socially conservative first world nation but still much more liberal than today.

I agree along with space exploration, the distribution of scientific advances and globalism.(globalism won't fade out of focus probably for 100 or 200 years until the world is united into one big country, their will always be nationalist groups that will grumble about free trade, or "imperialism".

Hmmmmm intersting thoughts on immigration. I think we might see a bump in 6 or 7 years with the end of populist socialism in Latin America(Chavez falling, Morales possibly falling) but then gradually decrease rates. Texas might have a majority of hispanics and California will come close to having one. The idea is though, that turnout rates of Hispanics will increase dramtically after the immigration wave ends and this will mean that many states will be dominated by them.
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