Zell Miller is on the stage...

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Zell, just shut up.  There is nothing wrong with the Democrats, parties change.  

And States, the Dems have not been hijacked by the left anymore (and probably alot less) then the republicans by the right.  Didn't most democrats support the war? Yes.  Do most democrats really push ultra-liberal agendas?  No.  

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Zell, just shut up.  There is nothing wrong with the Democrats, parties change.  

And States, the Dems have not been hijacked by the left anymore (and probably alot less) then the republicans by the right.  Didn't most democrats support the war? Yes.  Do most democrats really push ultra-liberal agendas?  No.  

Then why are moderates hauling tail from your party?

Uhh....you mean a bump in the polls for Bush?  LOL!  That's hardly hauling ass States.  

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Then why did he trash Carter? He was president more than 25 years ago. Plus if the party was like that dumbass wanted there would just be two identical parties, what's the point of that?

I missed the first party because I didn't feel like puking, but reluctantly watched the end. Now I think it'd be interesting to compare the vile hate he spewed to Obama's keynote speech at our convention, and then ask where this crap about how all the Bush hatred by liberals is wrong and how liberals hate America is coming from. Obama's speech was the one praising America, Zell just demonized and ripped Kerry, which is exactly what the right claims we do about Bush and it's wrong.

Zell never said that the left didnt have a right to be stupid. He only pointed out their stupidity. Every point he made related directly to policy stances. And keep saying Obama. I love it every time the left brings that commie up. Shifts more votes to the right.

yeah, like his speech wasn't well received at all and he's not kicking ass in the polls. lol. I think NixonNow has some competition here.

Hes kicking ass because of the circumstances surrounding the race. Ryan was right to step down. But the Illinois race will be the shocker of the election I believe. Go ahead and hug those early polls while Keyes is just getting started. Keyes wont lose by more then 5 points and could possibly win it.

After saying gays are "selfish heathens"?  Keyes is going to get crushed.  Maybe by over 30 pts.  The man is dispicable.

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Then why did he trash Carter? He was president more than 25 years ago. Plus if the party was like that dumbass wanted there would just be two identical parties, what's the point of that?

I missed the first party because I didn't feel like puking, but reluctantly watched the end. Now I think it'd be interesting to compare the vile hate he spewed to Obama's keynote speech at our convention, and then ask where this crap about how all the Bush hatred by liberals is wrong and how liberals hate America is coming from. Obama's speech was the one praising America, Zell just demonized and ripped Kerry, which is exactly what the right claims we do about Bush and it's wrong.

Zell never said that the left didnt have a right to be stupid. He only pointed out their stupidity. Every point he made related directly to policy stances. And keep saying Obama. I love it every time the left brings that commie up. Shifts more votes to the right.

yeah, like his speech wasn't well received at all and he's not kicking ass in the polls. lol. I think NixonNow has some competition here.

Hes kicking ass because of the circumstances surrounding the race. Ryan was right to step down. But the Illinois race will be the shocker of the election I believe. Go ahead and hug those early polls while Keyes is just getting started. Keyes wont lose by more then 5 points and could possibly win it.

After saying gays are "selfish heathens"?  Keyes is going to get crushed.  Maybe by over 30 pts.  The man is dispicable.

You impart your beliefs onto the people of Illinois. The people of illinois are just as opposed to gay marriage as every state in the union. His language may be strong, but pales in comparison to Obamas commie ways. Keyes will rise to the occassion. Mark my words, bookmark this thread.

And no, I dont think gays are heathens. Just dont feel that gay marriage even comes close to resembling a civil right.

Ummm...I didn't say anything about gay marriage....listen to it again....he called gays heathens.  People may not like gay marriage, but neither do they like politicans who use that harsh a word for a group of human beings.  

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Zell Miller: "John Kerry is a man unsure of whether the United States is a force of good or evil in the world."

Did he actually say that?  Oh god he is an asshole!

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So, calling Bush a Nazi is treason.....but saying Kerry hates America and thinks it is a force of evil in this world is fair game?  Wow.

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So, calling Bush a Nazi is treason.....but saying Kerry hates America and thinks it is a force of evil in this world is fair game?  Wow.

There's no basis for calling Bush a Nazi. He's actually very far from Nazi-ism. There IS a basis for arguing that Kerry clearly sees the USA as the bad guys and the aggressors. WHY can't you guys see that?

Have any of you libs ever listened to how he smeared our vets in front of Congress?

MAYBE THE MAN DOESN'T THINK THE US SHOULD BE THE AGGRESORS IN THE WORLD!  MAYBE HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY FOR THE BETTER!  MAYBE HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN DIE IN VAIN!  

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So, calling Bush a Nazi is treason.....but saying Kerry hates America and thinks it is a force of evil in this world is fair game?  Wow.

There's no basis for calling Bush a Nazi. He's actually very far from Nazi-ism. There IS a basis for arguing that Kerry clearly sees the USA as the bad guys and the aggressors. WHY can't you guys see that?

Have any of you libs ever listened to how he smeared our vets in front of Congress?

MAYBE THE MAN DOESN'T THINK THE US SHOULD BE THE AGGRESORS IN THE WORLD!  MAYBE HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY FOR THE BETTER!  MAYBE HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN DIE IN VAIN!  

Wow, so you guys DO see defending ourselves as acting as aggressors. Amazing. Or I should say the war on terror.

Iraq posed no clear threat to us or anyone else.  I know all to well of Saddam's horrible history, but attacking him did not change the past and people hundreds of thousands of soldiers into harm's way on false pretenses.  

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So, calling Bush a Nazi is treason.....but saying Kerry hates America and thinks it is a force of evil in this world is fair game?  Wow.

There's no basis for calling Bush a Nazi. He's actually very far from Nazi-ism. There IS a basis for arguing that Kerry clearly sees the USA as the bad guys and the aggressors. WHY can't you guys see that?

Have any of you libs ever listened to how he smeared our vets in front of Congress?

MAYBE THE MAN DOESN'T THINK THE US SHOULD BE THE AGGRESORS IN THE WORLD!  MAYBE HE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY FOR THE BETTER!  MAYBE HE DOESN'T WANT TO SEE GOOD MEN AND WOMEN DIE IN VAIN!  

Wow, so you guys DO see defending ourselves as acting as aggressors. Amazing. Or I should say the war on terror.

Iraq posed no clear threat to us or anyone else.  I know all to well of Saddam's horrible history, but attacking him did not change the past and people hundreds of thousands of soldiers into harm's way on false pretenses.  

What false pretenses? WMDs have always have been a red herring to me because they are insignificant to the greater goal of transforming the region. But who did not believe WMDs were there before the war? Cant argue false pretenses when there is no basis for your argument.

Are you joking?  Bush said there were WMDs.  Bush said there were connections to Al Queda.  They were the 2 arguments for going to war, and both weren't true.  That's called a false pretense.