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« Reply #150 on: August 26, 2009, 02:24:25 pm »
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Okay then, so, for me, noble means helping the poor and downtrodden and minorities and to you, noble means restricting the rights of those same people. Good to know!
Or that I value personal responsibities and you value gov't handouts.  Either one.
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« Reply #151 on: August 26, 2009, 02:24:50 pm »
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Also, for those unaware, Matthew Shepard was a young man who was abducted, tortured and murdered because he was gay. DWDL is now attacking him.
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« Reply #152 on: August 26, 2009, 02:25:39 pm »
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Okay then, so, for me, noble means helping the poor and downtrodden and minorities and to you, noble means restricting the rights of those same people. Good to know!
Or that I value personal responsibities and you value gov't handouts.  Either one.

You don't value personal responsibilities. You want everyone to belong to the same religion as you. That removes the responsibility of choosing a faith. You are a religious socialist.
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« Reply #153 on: August 26, 2009, 02:26:08 pm »
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Okay then, so, for me, noble means helping the poor and downtrodden and minorities and to you, noble means restricting the rights of those same people. Good to know!
Or that I value personal responsibities and you value gov't handouts.  Either one.
You also value voting rights being taken away and people who have aids to be quarantined.
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« Reply #154 on: August 26, 2009, 02:26:35 pm »
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Okay then, so, for me, noble means helping the poor and downtrodden and minorities and to you, noble means restricting the rights of those same people. Good to know!
Or that I value personal responsibities and you value gov't handouts.  Either one.
You also value voting rights being taken away and people who have aids to be quarantined.

How utterly typical of a socialist: he wants to bring the gulags back.
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« Reply #155 on: August 26, 2009, 02:26:56 pm »
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Okay then, so, for me, noble means helping the poor and downtrodden and minorities and to you, noble means restricting the rights of those same people. Good to know!
Or that I value personal responsibities and you value gov't handouts.  Either one.

It's hard to exercise personal responsibility when you're a second class citizen, bro.
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« Reply #156 on: August 26, 2009, 02:32:04 pm »
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Also, for those unaware, Matthew Shepard was a young man who was abducted, tortured and murdered because he was gay. DWDL is now attacking him.

DWDL has lost all claims of being even remotely libertarian as of right now.
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« Reply #157 on: August 26, 2009, 02:34:13 pm »
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Jesse Helms was a piece of shit racist hatemonger who did nothing but damage this country and inflame decades old hatred for political gain. He was an awful human being and the world is better off with him burning in hell. No apologies.
Oh and I fully agree with this. Fuck Jesse Helms, I hate sharing my name with such awful pieces of trash.
I feel the same way about Matthew Shepherd

What's actually Matthew Shepherd did wrong?

cause he was gay wolol
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« Reply #158 on: August 26, 2009, 02:51:47 pm »

Jesse Helms wanted to ... not have MLK day as a holiday.

Neither do I, but that's because we have far too many federal holidays as it is, especially that time of year.  If MLK could only have been born sometime in late July or early August when we could use another holiday, it wouldn't be nearly as objectionable.
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« Reply #159 on: August 26, 2009, 02:52:35 pm »
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Jesse Helms wanted to ... not have MLK day as a holiday.

Neither do I, but that's because we have far too many federal holidays as it is, especially that time of year.  If MLK could only have been born sometime in late July or early August when we could use another holiday, it wouldn't be nearly as objectionable.

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I don't like the fact that there are any public holidays. The create a government-backed hierarchy of values. But please, do try to be thorough in your posturing.
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« Reply #160 on: August 26, 2009, 02:54:37 pm »
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http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/07/04/jesse-helms-is-dead.aspx

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Soon after the Senate vote on the Confederate flag insignia, Sen. Jesse Helms (R.-N.C.) ran into [African-American Illinois Senator Carol] Mosely-Braun in a Capitol elevator. Helms turned to his friend, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R.-Utah), and said, "Watch me make her cry. I'm going to make her cry. I'm going to sing 'Dixie' until she cries." He then proceeded to sing the song about "the good life" during slavery to Mosely-Braun.

Not racist my ass.
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« Reply #161 on: August 26, 2009, 03:11:59 pm »
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Jesse Helms wanted to ... not have MLK day as a holiday.

Neither do I, but that's because we have far too many federal holidays as it is, especially that time of year.  If MLK could only have been born sometime in late July or early August when we could use another holiday, it wouldn't be nearly as objectionable.
The difference is that you oppose it for fairly practical reasons. He opposed it because he was a rascist asshole and his actions support this.
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« Reply #162 on: August 26, 2009, 03:17:26 pm »
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Jesse Helms was a piece of shit racist hatemonger who did nothing but damage this country and inflame decades old hatred for political gain. He was an awful human being and the world is better off with him burning in hell. No apologies.
Oh and I fully agree with this. Fuck Jesse Helms, I hate sharing my name with such awful pieces of trash.
I feel the same way about Matthew Shepherd

Who's the hypocrite now?

Trashing on Kennedy for "murdering" Mary Jo, but celebrating the murder of Matthew Shepherd.

It's things like that that truly makes me lose any ounce of respect I had for you.

I hope it's just teenaged ignorance talking from you.
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« Reply #163 on: August 26, 2009, 03:18:50 pm »
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Jesse Helms was a piece of shit racist hatemonger who did nothing but damage this country and inflame decades old hatred for political gain. He was an awful human being and the world is better off with him burning in hell. No apologies.
Oh and I fully agree with this. Fuck Jesse Helms, I hate sharing my name with such awful pieces of trash.
I feel the same way about Matthew Shepherd

Wow.
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« Reply #164 on: August 26, 2009, 03:18:57 pm »
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Also, for those unaware, Matthew Shepard was a young man who was abducted, tortured and murdered because he was gay. DWDL is now attacking him.

DWDL has lost all claims of being even remotely libertarian as of right now.
He never was a libertarian.  He is an economic anarchist with a few socially moderate positions, but closely follows the Christian morals on gays and abortion.

In other words, he loves liberty as long as you're like him and his family.  
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« Reply #165 on: August 26, 2009, 03:22:33 pm »
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The martyr that Matthew Shepherd has b/c is disgusting.  Its no worse than any other hate crime, that and I couldn't think of any more objectionable people I share a name with
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« Reply #166 on: August 26, 2009, 03:23:36 pm »
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Also, for those unaware, Matthew Shepard was a young man who was abducted, tortured and murdered because he was gay. DWDL is now attacking him.

DWDL has lost all claims of being even remotely libertarian as of right now.
Why because I oppose hate crimes legislation?
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« Reply #167 on: August 26, 2009, 03:25:31 pm »
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The martyr that Matthew Shepherd has b/c is disgusting.  Its no worse than any other hate crime, that and I couldn't think of any more objectionable people I share a name with

What the fuck, DWTL. The kid was tortured to death because of his sexuality and left to hang somewhere to slowly die. Attacking him and saying you hate sharing any part of your name with him is easily the most disgusting thing you've ever said and if you've ever needed a reason for being banned, this should be it.

I'm quite glad I don't live anywhere near you.

Edit: No, you're lucky I don't.
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« Reply #168 on: August 26, 2009, 03:34:19 pm »
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You're right, I'm lucky you don't live by me, you'd seriously bring down the quality of my neighboorhood, we are all hard working folks
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« Reply #169 on: August 26, 2009, 03:36:08 pm »
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No poors or gays allowed, lol.
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« Reply #170 on: August 26, 2009, 04:03:29 pm »
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DWTL = One of the reasons why Ron Paul isn't President, or didn't even win a primary. Too much trolling on the internet and putting down anyone who doesn't share his views, just like many other Ron Paul supporters.

Anyway, Jesse Helms was a pretty awful man, but RIP.
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« Reply #171 on: August 26, 2009, 04:19:46 pm »
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Also, for those unaware, Matthew Shepard was a young man who was abducted, tortured and murdered because he was gay. DWDL is now attacking him.

DWDL has lost all claims of being even remotely libertarian as of right now.
Why because I oppose hate crimes legislation?

No, because you view Matthew Shepard as more of a martyr for hate crime legislation than you do as an innocent human being who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. If you had said you are ashamed of how his death has become politicized, then maybe I wouldn't say anything but no you went the full monty and said you were ashamed to even share the same name as Matthew Shepard. Hate crime legislation is counter productive, but so is labeling people who have been murdered just because they were of a different sexual orientation, race, gender, what have you, as political martyrs for a specific issue instead of what they really are: victims.
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« Reply #172 on: August 26, 2009, 04:27:15 pm »
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Matthew Shepherd is a moron for accepting a ride from a complete stranger
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« Reply #173 on: August 26, 2009, 04:30:24 pm »
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Matthew Shepherd is a moron for accepting a ride from a complete stranger

And you're a moron for raping the word 'libertarian' every time you misapply it to yourself.
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« Reply #174 on: August 26, 2009, 04:31:45 pm »
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In the same day:

Really?  Do you know how many worse comments are posted about conservatives when they die who aren't murderers?

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