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« on: July 06, 2008, 02:54:27 AM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2008, 07:27:14 AM »

I just hope he remembers to be a good Democrat and get his vaccinations first Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2008, 12:29:50 PM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html

Ha, Republicans...attack Clinton for dodging the draft but give Geoge Bush a standing O despite doing the same thing.
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2008, 12:34:01 PM »

While I agree that Democrats need to reach out to all Americans (and this is the year to do it), I find NASCAR fans to have something wrong with them... but that's purely my personal opinion, mostly derived from the debilitating boredom that sets in after watching a bunch of cars circle a track over and over and over and over and over and over and over again...

In all honesty, I'd rather watch plants grow.  (and I'm not kidding)
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2008, 12:57:19 PM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html

Ha, Republicans...attack Clinton for dodging the draft but give Geoge Bush a standing O despite doing the same thing.

Bush served in the TX Air National Guard. Clinton sat out and protested against his country like a wimp. Then he had no guts in office and let us take our eye of the ball leaving us at risk of an impending attack. Atleast Bush has had the Truman-esque guts to say "I'm the President, and I'll say what we do."
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2008, 12:58:24 PM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html

Ha, Republicans...attack Clinton for dodging the draft but give Geoge Bush a standing O despite doing the same thing.

Bush served in the TX Air National Guard. Clinton sat out and protested against his country like a wimp. Then he had no guts in office and let us take our eye of the ball leaving us at risk of an impending attack. Atleast Bush has had the Truman-esque guts to say "I'm the President, and I'll say what we do."

Roll Eyes

Ever wondered why he was in the National Guard?
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2008, 01:04:03 PM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html

Ha, Republicans...attack Clinton for dodging the draft but give Geoge Bush a standing O despite doing the same thing.

Bush served in the TX Air National Guard. Clinton sat out and protested against his country like a wimp. Then he had no guts in office and let us take our eye of the ball leaving us at risk of an impending attack. Atleast Bush has had the Truman-esque guts to say "I'm the President, and I'll say what we do."

Wow, talk about a warped perception of reality. Once again, you repeat the party line: Protesters = unpatriotic/sissy's.
Both the Clinton and Bush administrations were responsible for not paying enough attention to Bin Laden. Bush was already focusing on Iraq and Clinton was focused on Kosovo.

and why was Bush in the "weekend warriors" anyways?
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« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2008, 01:06:09 PM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html

Ha, Republicans...attack Clinton for dodging the draft but give Geoge Bush a standing O despite doing the same thing.

Bush served in the TX Air National Guard. Clinton sat out and protested against his country like a wimp. Then he had no guts in office and let us take our eye of the ball leaving us at risk of an impending attack. Atleast Bush has had the Truman-esque guts to say "I'm the President, and I'll say what we do."

Wow, talk about a warped perception of reality. Once again, you repeat the party line: Protesters = unpatriotic/sissy's.
Both the Clinton and Bush administrations were responsible for not paying enough attention to Bin Laden. Bush was already focusing on Iraq and Clinton was focused on Kosovo.

and why was Bush in the "weekend warriors" anyways?

Of course Bush in 2001 didn't take enough action...but he had 8 months...Clinton had 8 years and one attack under his administration.
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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2008, 01:13:49 PM »

Barack Obama may campaign at a NASCAR event

As Barack Obama continues his focus on states that usually vote Republican in presidential elections, word comes that he may campaign at a NASCAR event. Why? Well, to paraphrase a supposed Willie Sutton line that he robbed banks because that's where the money is, if Obama needs white working-class voters in the fall, there are few better places to find them than at a NASCAR event.

Roll Call has the news, but it's behind their subscription wall. Briefly, they quote Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki as saying a campaign appearance was a possibility but no dates or firm confirmations were offered. "We would love to make it to a NASCAR race if the schedule permits," she said.

Roll Call noted that the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series hits the Chicagoland Speedway next weekend then later in the month races at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

Bill Clinton tried that tack in September 1992, campaigning at the Southern 500 Stock Car race in Darlington, S.C., but drew jeers and catcalls and insults about his lack of Vietnam War service. That was the year Richard Petty was retiring, and the staunch Republican and racing icon told track officials he wouldn't drive the pace car -- part of his retirement-year sendoff -- if Clinton was in the parade.

Clinton lost South Carolina by 8 points. And more recently George W. Bush actively courted NASCAR fans -- getting a much better reception.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/07/nascar-obama.html

Ha, Republicans...attack Clinton for dodging the draft but give Geoge Bush a standing O despite doing the same thing.

Bush served in the TX Air National Guard. Clinton sat out and protested against his country like a wimp. Then he had no guts in office and let us take our eye of the ball leaving us at risk of an impending attack. Atleast Bush has had the Truman-esque guts to say "I'm the President, and I'll say what we do."

Wow, talk about a warped perception of reality. Once again, you repeat the party line: Protesters = unpatriotic/sissy's.
Both the Clinton and Bush administrations were responsible for not paying enough attention to Bin Laden. Bush was already focusing on Iraq and Clinton was focused on Kosovo.

and why was Bush in the "weekend warriors" anyways?

Of course Bush in 2001 didn't take enough action...but he had 8 months...Clinton had 8 years and one attack under his administration.

He still had ample opportunity to stop it. He was given plenty of warnings from Clark and Tenet. Time wasn't the issue here, complacency was. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2008, 11:42:59 PM »

Obama to sponsor Cup car at Pocono race

SI.com has learned that for the first time in history, a major presidential candidate may sponsor a race car in NASCAR's premier series. According to sources, Barack Obama's campaign is in talks to become the primary sponsor of BAM Racing's No. 49 Sprint Cup car for the Pocono race on August 3. Details of the agreement are expected to be worked out over the coming days.

A BAM spokesperson has revealed the team will hold a press conference July 23 in Miami to reveal the partnership, currently a proposed one-race deal with an option to continue. Obama will be at the briefing, which will be tied to the "Get Out The Vote" campaign message he spread throughout the 2008 primary season.

Racing sources claim one of the options being considered would allow individual campaign donors to get their name on the race car for as little as $100. Obama will also be present for a second private fundraiser on July 30 in Miami, in which team owners Beth Ann and Tony Morgenthau -- staunch Republicans -- will give the Democrat an opportunity to spread his message of change. Randy Moss and Fergie are among the celebrities confirmed to be a part of that fundraiser in support of the candidate and his venture into NASCAR.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/tom_bowles/07/11/obama/index.html
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2008, 12:07:19 AM »

So.. what exactly does Obama expect to get in return for such an investment? I don't study demographics but I'd take a guess that at least 90% of those who watch NASCAR for entertainment are part of that other hoppin' boppin' 28% who think Big Double-U has been awwwww right geterdun etc et al ad nauseum
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2008, 12:08:29 AM »

This is going to look like Kerry goose-hunting. Thumbs down in my book.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2008, 12:24:27 AM »

This is going to look like Kerry goose-hunting. Thumbs down in my book.

OK, it seems they are not going to do it:

 JOLIET, Ill. (AP) -- NASCAR's BAM Racing team has presented Barack Obama's presidential campaign with a potential sponsorship deal in the Sprint Cup series later this year, but it doesn't look like an Obama car will be burning rubber on the track anytime soon.

BAM team spokesman Rhett Vandiver told The Associated Press on Friday that the team made a sponsorship proposal to the Democratic presidential hopeful's campaign, and has made similar proposals to the campaign of Republican John McCain and at least one third-party candidate.

Late Friday, the Obama campaign said there would be no sponsorship.

"The Obama campaign will not be sponsoring a car in the Sprint Cup series, though we will continue to look for ways to reach out to voters and convey Senator Obama's message of change." said Bill Burton, an Obama campaign spokesman.

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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2008, 12:27:17 AM »

This is going to look like Kerry goose-hunting. Thumbs down in my book.

OK, it seems they are not going to do it:

 JOLIET, Ill. (AP) -- NASCAR's BAM Racing team has presented Barack Obama's presidential campaign with a potential sponsorship deal in the Sprint Cup series later this year, but it doesn't look like an Obama car will be burning rubber on the track anytime soon.

BAM team spokesman Rhett Vandiver told The Associated Press on Friday that the team made a sponsorship proposal to the Democratic presidential hopeful's campaign, and has made similar proposals to the campaign of Republican John McCain and at least one third-party candidate.

Late Friday, the Obama campaign said there would be no sponsorship.

"The Obama campaign will not be sponsoring a car in the Sprint Cup series, though we will continue to look for ways to reach out to voters and convey Senator Obama's message of change." said Bill Burton, an Obama campaign spokesman.

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Well that's good as well, but campaigning in general at these events is a bad idea for him.

People don't want you to try to pretend you're a part of their culture when you're not. They just want you to respect it and be genuine.
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2008, 02:20:09 AM »

I fear for his life.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2008, 11:43:11 AM »

You guys need to get off of your NASCAR stereotype's. My dad is an upper-income white-coller educated liberal and he absolutely loves the 'sport'. He's a Jeff Gordon fan.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2008, 11:47:28 AM »

You guys need to get off of your NASCAR stereotype's. My dad is an upper-income white-coller educated liberal and he absolutely loves the 'sport'. He's a Jeff Gordon fan.

Upper-income white-collar educated liberal dumbass Smiley
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2008, 12:18:02 PM »

Looks like this was a story that came out of BAM Racing being desperate for a sponsor.  There are a number of NASCAR teams having sponsor problems this year.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2008, 01:12:12 PM »

NASCAR is retarded. 
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2008, 05:58:53 PM »

If my children ever watched NASCAR, I'd disown them
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2008, 06:15:31 PM »

He's not sponsoring the car anymore, I guess. It's probably because the driver is a Republican(obviously) and donated money to Bush.
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« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2008, 01:16:53 PM »

He's not sponsoring the car anymore, I guess. It's probably because the driver is a Republican(obviously) and donated money to Bush.

Where was there ever any indication he was going to?  The team approached Obama (and others) about it and he turned it down, and rightly so in my opinion.  Sponsoring a car for a single NASCAR race is one of the worst ad buys one can make, in part because the teams willing to accept single race sponsorships are generally doing so bad that you'll get almost no "free"airtime other than when a good race car laps yours or your car starts a wreck.  That's even without considering the obvious charges of pandering that would be generated if he did it.

On the other hand, if he could sponsor a good team for multiple races, it might be worth it.  After all, like just like the cars at a NASCAR race, Obama wants this country to turn left fast. Grin
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