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« on: February 17, 2010, 10:49:12 PM »

http://reason.com/archives/2010/02/11/palin-exposes-the-tea-partiers

Good article by one of the few outlets of semi-sane libertarianism in existence.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2010, 11:09:05 PM »

     Great article. It should come as no surprise that the tea partiers are fans of the government controlling people, though.
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2010, 11:25:50 PM »

The author of that article is not a libertarian, nor is "Reason Magazine" an outlet of libertarianism for hosting his writings on their site.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2010, 11:28:45 PM »

The author of that article is not a libertarian, nor is "Reason Magazine" an outlet of libertarianism for hosting his writings on their site.

     Doesn't make the article any less true, though.
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2010, 05:08:25 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2010, 05:10:09 PM by TrueRepublicIran »

The writer is confused about the origins and the original players of the movement.

Actually, I personally know some social conservatives that are now completely turned off by Palin, as a result of her interference in the tea parties. She is starting to be seen as the establishment.
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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2010, 08:24:49 PM »

She is starting to be seen as the establishment.

I'm not sure how the vice presidential nominee of one of the two main parties wouldn't have been seen as the establishment before now.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2010, 08:45:59 PM »

The author of that article is not a libertarian, nor is "Reason Magazine" an outlet of libertarianism for hosting his writings on their site.
You don't even know what a libertarian is.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2010, 08:49:10 PM »

She is starting to be seen as the establishment.

I'm not sure how the vice presidential nominee of one of the two main parties wouldn't have been seen as the establishment before now.

     It seems to defy reason, doesn't it?
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2010, 08:54:29 PM »

Saying Sarah Palin is the queen of the Tea Partiers is like saying Jesse Jackson is the king of black people.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2010, 09:53:57 PM »

She is starting to be seen as the establishment.

I'm not sure how the vice presidential nominee of one of the two main parties wouldn't have been seen as the establishment before now.

She was supposedly an outsider 'maverick' type beforehand. It's why some people think McCain picked her. I believe McCain himself mentioned it.
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« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2010, 09:58:21 PM »

Sure, but her 'outsider' status ended the day she accepted the nomination and became part of the machine.
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« Reply #11 on: February 18, 2010, 10:06:52 PM »

Sure, but her 'outsider' status ended the day she accepted the nomination and became part of the machine.

Not necessarily. The 'Good Old Boys' club does not choose the VP candidate. The person chosen by Republican voters does.
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« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2010, 10:34:20 PM »

The 'Establishment' is far wider in scope than just the elites within either of the two main parties.
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« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2010, 10:36:31 PM »

The author of that article is not a libertarian, nor is "Reason Magazine" an outlet of libertarianism for hosting his writings on their site.
You don't even know what a libertarian is.
Yes I do, and Mr. Chapman is not one of us.

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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2010, 11:18:38 PM »

The 'Establishment' is far wider in scope than just the elites within either of the two main parties.

It really doesn't matter what you think. Does it?

I'm not saying that your opinion does not matter, but according to former Palin fans, she is not 'establishment.' At least, they didn't think so before. That is what matters, here.
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« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2010, 11:41:02 PM »

Oh, I know, I'm not denying that the perception has been that Palin is somehow outside the establishment.  I'm simply pointing out that the truth is very different from the perception, and not very shockingly, the tea baggers have apparently been slow on the uptake.
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« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2010, 01:38:49 AM »

The Tea Partiers are and always have been authoritarians. What are their main demands? An expansion of Federal power to control immigration, an expansion of Federal power in the social sphere, and support for our current wars of aggression. There is not and has never been anything remotely libertarian about them.
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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2010, 01:54:02 PM »

She is starting to be seen as the establishment.

I'm not sure how the vice presidential nominee of one of the two main parties wouldn't have been seen as the establishment before now.

I'd guess the same way an oil billionaire governor educated at Yale, and the son of a former president to boot, ran as an "outsider" 10 years ago.
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2010, 07:49:36 PM »

The Tea Partiers are and always have been authoritarians. What are their main demands? An expansion of Federal power to control immigration, an expansion of Federal power in the social sphere, and support for our current wars of aggression. There is not and has never been anything remotely libertarian about them.

That's a lie. That was not always the stance of the Tea Parties. There is a lot of infighting, right now. It's called infiltration.
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« Reply #19 on: February 22, 2010, 10:41:57 PM »

The Tea Partiers are and always have been authoritarians. What are their main demands? An expansion of Federal power to control immigration, an expansion of Federal power in the social sphere, and support for our current wars of aggression. There is not and has never been anything remotely libertarian about them.

That's a lie. That was not always the stance of the Tea Parties. There is a lot of infighting, right now. It's called infiltration.

Well, yes, but when they weren't like this, nobody cared about them.
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