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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2008, 11:35:29 PM »



She's two people... at once! How will we know who to defend ourselves from?!?!



And them.
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« Reply #26 on: July 11, 2008, 08:14:30 AM »

Unless the US dramatically improves its educational system, India and China will eat the US alive over the longer term, unless the US is able to continue to import the best and the brightest, which might become increasingly difficult as wage levels narrow for such talent. The rest of the planet is a distraction, irritating sometime, but in the end rather irrelevant as to this issue. Europe has decided more of less to commit demographic suicide. It's headed to theme park status.
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« Reply #27 on: July 11, 2008, 08:37:01 AM »

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« Reply #28 on: July 11, 2008, 08:38:19 AM »

All of those are big threats, no doubt, but I've got my eye on a country we've had trouble with before--GERMANY.

The reason I say Germany is our biggest threat is due to the Euro.  France and Germany were in cahoots in creating the Euro.  They created the Euro to force all the European nations to come under one currency so the Germans and the French could "currency-gouge" the rest of Europe and force them to break loose of the grip of the Euro.  Plus, in my opinion, Germany did not learn its lesson from World War II and the United States failed to completely stabilize the country mainly because stupidly got ourselves into a Pacific theater with Japan. (Japan wasn't our biggest enemy in WW2, we made them our biggest enemy.)  If America had done things right like befriend Japan (they wanted to be our friend in the late 1930s), we may have been able to avoid Pearl Harbor.  Since Pearl Harbor happened our focus had to mainly shift out to the Pacific and thus the European theater ended a good 5 months before the Pacific theater.  We didn't treat the Germans with a whole lot of respect coming out WW2 and during the Cold War.  That's part of the reason they decided to initiate the Euro some 50 years after the suicide of Hitler.  I can very easily see another German attack on France in the coming years and I can see them linking arms with Italy again and plunge the world back into World War 3 in the next 10-15 years.

Mere words cannot express quite how utterly stupid the above post is.

Spot on.

Jeff - Have you read anything on US/German relations since 1945? The Germans see their past (1914-1945) with shame and have been willing to do anything to forget the past. Their military is actually zilch. They resuse to have any nuclear arsenal and trust the French and Britian to protect them. The EU and NATO have made it so that Europe is united in its cause for security and economic growth throughout Europe. The Germans rely on the Euro, with the rest of Europe, for economic success. If anything, Germany will pass the British as America's biggest ally in the next 20-25 years.

Seriously Jeff, I have high regard for you on this forum, but sometimes you post some threads that absolutely have no logic! And this takes the cake.
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« Reply #29 on: July 11, 2008, 08:50:35 AM »

The Republican and Democratic Parties.
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« Reply #30 on: July 11, 2008, 09:00:42 AM »

I bet TexasDumbAsRocks told BushOK to post this b/c she couldn't bring herself to log in or some sh**t like that
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« Reply #31 on: July 11, 2008, 10:07:11 AM »

As always the biggest threat to the majority of americans will be the minority of americans - their owners.

As for geopolitically, China is not a 'threat' to the US itself of course, but it certainly threatens america's hegemony.  Russia figures into this only as far as it can cooperate with China.  India will continue to become a closer ally, and Euro-land and Japan will remain so.
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« Reply #32 on: July 11, 2008, 10:19:54 AM »

The American people.

More specifically, the widening gap between people's attentions spans and how much they "demand to be heard."
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« Reply #33 on: July 11, 2008, 10:24:35 AM »

I bet TexasDumbAsRocks told BushOK to post this b/c she couldn't bring herself to log in or some sh**t like that

Wow, you might be on to something for once.
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« Reply #34 on: July 11, 2008, 10:32:35 AM »

I bet TexasDumbAsRocks told BushOK to post this b/c she couldn't bring herself to log in or some sh**t like that

Wow, you might be on to something for once.

Would you guys just cool it, please.  Why do you have to insult me and ridicule me for being friends with these nice folks.  Quit acting childish.
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« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2008, 10:34:06 AM »

I bet TexasDumbAsRocks told BushOK to post this b/c she couldn't bring herself to log in or some sh**t like that

Wow, you might be on to something for once.

Would you guys just cool it, please.  Why do you have to insult me and ridicule me for being friends with these nice folks.  Quit acting childish.
Find some new friends, that's the only advice I could give other than get a therapist
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« Reply #36 on: July 11, 2008, 10:42:03 AM »

All of those are big threats, no doubt, but I've got my eye on a country we've had trouble with before--GERMANY.

The reason I say Germany is our biggest threat is due to the Euro.  France and Germany were in cahoots in creating the Euro.  They created the Euro to force all the European nations to come under one currency so the Germans and the French could "currency-gouge" the rest of Europe and force them to break loose of the grip of the Euro.  Plus, in my opinion, Germany did not learn its lesson from World War II and the United States failed to completely stabilize the country mainly because stupidly got ourselves into a Pacific theater with Japan. (Japan wasn't our biggest enemy in WW2, we made them our biggest enemy.)  If America had done things right like befriend Japan (they wanted to be our friend in the late 1930s), we may have been able to avoid Pearl Harbor.  Since Pearl Harbor happened our focus had to mainly shift out to the Pacific and thus the European theater ended a good 5 months before the Pacific theater.  We didn't treat the Germans with a whole lot of respect coming out WW2 and during the Cold War.  That's part of the reason they decided to initiate the Euro some 50 years after the suicide of Hitler.  I can very easily see another German attack on France in the coming years and I can see them linking arms with Italy again and plunge the world back into World War 3 in the next 10-15 years.

Mere words cannot express quite how utterly stupid the above post is.

Spot on.

Jeff - Have you read anything on US/German relations since 1945? The Germans see their past (1914-1945) with shame and have been willing to do anything to forget the past. Their military is actually zilch. They resuse to have any nuclear arsenal and trust the French and Britian to protect them. The EU and NATO have made it so that Europe is united in its cause for security and economic growth throughout Europe. The Germans rely on the Euro, with the rest of Europe, for economic success. If anything, Germany will pass the British as America's biggest ally in the next 20-25 years.

Seriously Jeff, I have high regard for you on this forum, but sometimes you post some threads that absolutely have no logic! And this takes the cake.

I know that sometimes I post things that are illogical to the members on the forum, and frankly, I post them because I have somewhat of a different view than mainstream America or mainstream Atlas as the case may be.  Now, I will grant you that pinning 21st century Germany as a threat is a weird stretch, but I'm not going to back down on the things I post.  I know Down and BRTD would like me to leave the forum totally, but that will not happen.
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« Reply #37 on: July 11, 2008, 10:43:11 AM »

I bet TexasDumbAsRocks told BushOK to post this b/c she couldn't bring herself to log in or some sh**t like that

Wow, you might be on to something for once.

Would you guys just cool it, please.  Why do you have to insult me and ridicule me for being friends with these nice folks.  Quit acting childish.
Find some new friends, that's the only advice I could give other than get a therapist

I do find new friends, but I will not let go of these two friends, no matter what may be the "popular opinion" of those two.
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« Reply #38 on: July 11, 2008, 10:43:46 AM »
« Edited: July 12, 2008, 10:28:17 AM by Dave Leip »

BushOK, no one wants to see you leave the forum.

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« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2008, 01:00:49 PM »

Unless the US dramatically improves its educational system, India and China will eat the US alive over the longer term, unless the US is able to continue to import the best and the brightest, which might become increasingly difficult as wage levels narrow for such talent. The rest of the planet is a distraction, irritating sometime, but in the end rather irrelevant as to this issue. Europe has decided more of less to commit demographic suicide. It's headed to theme park status.

Yet another reason I consider Torie one of the smartest people here.  Though props to Dead for naming Russia first.  There is much merit in what he says.  But yeah -- the China/India economic surge should worry us.

Of course, we ignore ANY other country at our peril.  Brazil, Venezuela, any of the major players in Africa -- all of them have some bearing on our future.  But the OP asked for the greatest potential threat.  And Torie knocked it outta the park.
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« Reply #40 on: July 11, 2008, 02:59:08 PM »

Unless the US dramatically improves its educational system, India and China will eat the US alive over the longer term, unless the US is able to continue to import the best and the brightest, which might become increasingly difficult as wage levels narrow for such talent. The rest of the planet is a distraction, irritating sometime, but in the end rather irrelevant as to this issue. Europe has decided more of less to commit demographic suicide. It's headed to theme park status.

Yet another reason I consider Torie one of the smartest people here.

I like Torie, and do consider him smart, though based on his wittier posts (particularly the more personal ones), not on his regurgitation of conventional prognostication in the above post.
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« Reply #41 on: July 11, 2008, 03:29:16 PM »


Basically. Many blame those in power for preserving their power, but if people would wake the fuck up they could end it.
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« Reply #42 on: July 11, 2008, 03:47:59 PM »


Basically. Many blame those in power for preserving their power, but if people would wake the fuck up they could end it.

How?
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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2008, 04:53:21 PM »

Hey BushOklahoma what are your views of the coming nonwhite majority in the US and of the very soon ending of the protestant majority(a few years ago some study showed the US as 52% protestant and with immigration/all the scandals..)?
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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2008, 11:29:58 PM »


If people really realized how they were getting screwed over there would be a violent revolution. Or at least massive reform that prevented career politicians, stripped industry of a lot of their ownership powers, and allowed for more redistribution. It's irrelevant to talk about o/c.
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« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2008, 11:41:24 PM »

Our own hubris. Be that in foreign and domestic policy. I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2008, 07:40:50 PM »

Hey BushOklahoma what are your views of the coming nonwhite majority in the US and of the very soon ending of the protestant majority(a few years ago some study showed the US as 52% protestant and with immigration/all the scandals..)?

I welcome the nonwhite majority in the USA, as I look beyond race and ethnicity, though I am very saddened by the lack of Christian fundamentals and values in this nation.  (not fundamentalists, but fundamentals), and that is aimed at protestants, catholics, and non-believers.  That is aimed at myself, too.

I believe in the SOCAS (separation of church and state), but that shouldn't stop our leaders from consulting their God in how best to govern this nation.  They don't have to, and should not, wear their religion on their sleeve and force it down everyone's throat, but they do need to PRIVATELY consult their God in the governing of this nation.  That goes for ALL nations and ALL leaders, not just the United States and her President.  There is nothing wrong with our President or members of Congress, Republican or Democrat, privately praying and asking his God what to do next.

So, to better answer your question, I welcome with exceeding joy the multiple ethnicities and cultures, but I loathe and am deeply saddened by the lack of Christian ideals in this country, not necessarily protestant ideals.

Thank you for the question!!!
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« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2008, 07:49:10 PM »

Ourselves.
Hey BushOklahoma what are your views of the coming nonwhite majority in the US and of the very soon ending of the protestant majority(a few years ago some study showed the US as 52% protestant and with immigration/all the scandals..)?

I welcome the nonwhite majority in the USA, as I look beyond race and ethnicity, though I am very saddened by the lack of Christian fundamentals and values in this nation.  (not fundamentalists, but fundamentals), and that is aimed at protestants, catholics, and non-believers.  That is aimed at myself, too.

I believe in the SOCAS (separation of church and state), but that shouldn't stop our leaders from consulting their God in how best to govern this nation.  They don't have to, and should not, wear their religion on their sleeve and force it down everyone's throat, but they do need to PRIVATELY consult their God in the governing of this nation.  That goes for ALL nations and ALL leaders, not just the United States and her President.  There is nothing wrong with our President or members of Congress, Republican or Democrat, privately praying and asking his God what to do next.

So, to better answer your question, I welcome with exceeding joy the multiple ethnicities and cultures, but I loathe and am deeply saddened by the lack of Christian ideals in this country, not necessarily protestant ideals.

Thank you for the question!!!

What do you think about Jews and Muslims in this country who have virtually similar values as Christians, but a different religion in name?
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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2008, 07:56:07 PM »

Ourselves.
Hey BushOklahoma what are your views of the coming nonwhite majority in the US and of the very soon ending of the protestant majority(a few years ago some study showed the US as 52% protestant and with immigration/all the scandals..)?

I welcome the nonwhite majority in the USA, as I look beyond race and ethnicity, though I am very saddened by the lack of Christian fundamentals and values in this nation.  (not fundamentalists, but fundamentals), and that is aimed at protestants, catholics, and non-believers.  That is aimed at myself, too.

I believe in the SOCAS (separation of church and state), but that shouldn't stop our leaders from consulting their God in how best to govern this nation.  They don't have to, and should not, wear their religion on their sleeve and force it down everyone's throat, but they do need to PRIVATELY consult their God in the governing of this nation.  That goes for ALL nations and ALL leaders, not just the United States and her President.  There is nothing wrong with our President or members of Congress, Republican or Democrat, privately praying and asking his God what to do next.

So, to better answer your question, I welcome with exceeding joy the multiple ethnicities and cultures, but I loathe and am deeply saddened by the lack of Christian ideals in this country, not necessarily protestant ideals.

Thank you for the question!!!

What do you think about Jews and Muslims in this country who have virtually similar values as Christians, but a different religion in name?

I accept them as well!!  I prefer Christianity and will try to proclaim Christ's name insofar as possible, but I do like most of the values of Judaism and Islam for they are very similar to Christian ideals.
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« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2008, 09:26:47 PM »

Russia will be a big part of it.
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