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« on: July 14, 2008, 07:51:38 PM »

The states the Goldwater campaign targeted to win:



Goldwater's own analysis:



Optimistic Democratic analysis:



According to this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb5SW53clqU&NR=1

The actual results:

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« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2008, 11:09:22 PM »

Awesome! It was especially cool to see the commercials. Smiley

Very interesting that Goldwater actually won two states that he thought he'd lose, and lost by more than 2 to 1 margins in some states he thought he could win. I guess state by state polling was pretty bad in 1964.
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 02:31:58 AM »

Quite interesting indeed. Thanks for posting this Xahar Smiley.

The most interesting thing I find about these maps is Goldwater's own predictions about the outcome. He expected to win Ohio and yet lose Georgia? Now that in my books it quite hilarious when you actually look at the results of those two states in 1964. Although the results in Georgia weren't as convincing as those in Ohio, it's still quite hilarious nonetheless.

Another interesting thing about Goldwater's own predictions about the outcome is Illinois. I wonder why he expected to win Illinois over Johnson in 1964? Does the YouTube video give insight into Goldwater's visions or does it not?
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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 01:42:40 PM »

Why'd he predict himself to lose his homestate?
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 01:55:01 PM »

Awesome! It was especially cool to see the commercials. Smiley

Very interesting that Goldwater actually won two states that he thought he'd lose, and lost by more than 2 to 1 margins in some states he thought he could win. I guess state by state polling was pretty bad in 1964.

All I saw there was a Gallup Poll that gave Johnson a margin of about 30% nationwide. So they probably had very little to go on beyond past results.

Quite interesting indeed. Thanks for posting this Xahar Smiley.

The most interesting thing I find about these maps is Goldwater's own predictions about the outcome. He expected to win Ohio and yet lose Georgia? Now that in my books it quite hilarious when you actually look at the results of those two states in 1964. Although the results in Georgia weren't as convincing as those in Ohio, it's still quite hilarious nonetheless.

Another interesting thing about Goldwater's own predictions about the outcome is Illinois. I wonder why he expected to win Illinois over Johnson in 1964? Does the YouTube video give insight into Goldwater's visions or does it not?

Well, Illinois was one of the most conservative states in the nation back then (aside from Cook County, it still is). If you look at the results, Goldwater polled much better there than in surrounding states. As for Georgia, its voting for Goldwater on election night was quite a surprise. The Democrats had great organizational strength in Georgia, which everyone considered insurmountable.

Why'd he predict himself to lose his homestate?

I'm not quite sure, but it was very close (like Minnesota '84), and its five votes were somewhat unimportant to the campaigns, who had bigger fish to fry.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 03:47:08 PM »

Interesting that Goldwater decided to target Texas, but not Utah or Indiana.
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