Amendment to the 24 Hour Waiting Period in the OPSR (At Final Vote)

[Colin]

Amendment to the 24 Hour Waiting Period in the OSPR

Article 5, Section 2 of the OSPR is amended with the addition of a Clause 4:

4. Clauses 2 and 3 shall not apply in cases where no votes have been cast against a piece of legislation. In these cases, the PPT shall publicly declare the vote total to be final and shall apply said vote total to the legislation. All Senators shall be prohibited from changing their votes on the legislation after this time.


Sponsor: Colin Wixted

[minionofmidas]

What's this for?

[Colin]

What's this for?

If a piece of legislation does not have any nay votes the PPT does not need to call for the 24-hour period between calling the vote closed and certifying the final tally and sending it to the President's desk. Basically doing away with the 24-hour, you can't vote anymore but can change your ballot time, that is currently required for all legislation. I believe this is what is meant by this resolution. Peter would be able to give you a more definite answer.

[Torie]

It says you can't change your vote during the 24 hour period, which suggests that at present you can. Putting aside the merits of this legislation, I like the idea of having 24 hours notice that the polling is about to close. It is sort of like a last drink call.

[minionofmidas]

It says you can't change your vote during the 24 hour period, which suggests that at present you can. Putting aside the merits of this legislation, I like the idea of having 24 hours notice that the polling is about to close. It is sort of like a last drink call.

Yeah, same here.

I assume that the idea here is that we don't need that on legislation that's passing unanimously. And that the legislative queue is too long (as it used to be), and lawmaking could be speeded up somewhat this way. I don't think the change is necessary atm.

[Colin]

As there has not been any debate on this resolution in 24 hours I will open voting.

Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain on the resolution.

[Colin]

Aye

[Torie]

Nay.

What is so terrible about the 24 hour notice rule, to vote or change your vote? What am I missing here? I assume that at least 6 senators (if 10 office holding senators) need to vote yea or nay unanimously  right for this to apply, i.e. a majority? If it is to make room for other legislation, maybe allow another bill to come forward as if the one with no disagreement has been resolved would take care of that concern.

I do think that there should be a maximum amount of time for a bill to be pending, and if it does not get enough votes to pass, it should be deemed to have failed (after a 24 hour warning). But that is a bill for another day.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Aye

I've always thought allowing 24 hours to change votes was stupid, especially on things that are unanimous

[CultureKing]

aye

[minionofmidas]

Nay. Torie's sentiments echoed.

[Meeker]

Nay

[Verily]

Aye. We don't need it right now because there's no major legislative backlog, but it would have been useful, say, at the beginning of my first term as PPT, when the backlog was enormous. I see no down side.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Aye. We don't need it right now because there's no major legislative backlog, but it would have been useful, say, at the beginning of my first term as PPT, when the backlog was enormous. I see no down side.

Which explains why most in the senate during the time are voting in favor

[DownWithTheLeft]

4-3 in favor, has it been to long for Afleitch to vote?

[Colin]

Voting is now closed. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

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Yes it is. No further votes can be tallied since voting ended at 12:37 PM yesterday.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Voting is now closed. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

Ironic, we have to wait 24 hours for a bill to eliminate the 24 hour waiting period   (OK maybe its not irony but literary terms are not my forte)

[Verily]

Voting is now closed. Senators have 24 hours to change their votes.

Ironic, we have to wait 24 hours for a bill to eliminate the 24 hour waiting period   (OK maybe its not irony but literary terms are not my forte)

In fact, it would be the exact opposite of irony. (Irony is any situation in which something the opposite of what would be expected happens, e.g., a fire station catches fire. The 24-hour waiting period having not yet been eliminated, its existence is to be completely expected.)

[Torie]

Paradox might come closest to the "meet" of DWL's 24 on 24.

[Хahar 🤔]

Paradox might come closest to the "meet" of DWL's 24 on 24.

Not exactly paradoxical (at least in my understanding). Humorous, but nothing else.

[Ebowed]

The resolution has passed.