Smid's Diplomacy Game Thread #1

[Lunar]

I know.

I thought it all through like crazy.  You could have stopped me but I tried my damnedest to hint at the imperfect set of moves (my buried comment about Finland, talking with you and Jas etc).   Convincing you not to make those necessary moves was my number one priority haha.  I  doubt I was successful and I suspect that you would have made the same moves you made regardless, but at least I tried.

Unfortunately Jas figured out what he needed to do (attacking Napoli).  I'll try harder at confusing him next time!!

[minionofmidas]

I know.

I thought it all through like crazy.  You could have stopped me but I tried my damnedest to hint at the imperfect set of moves (my buried comment about Finland, talking with you and Jas etc).

I don't think that had anything to do with it. I just considered it too much of a waste.

I'll not be this stupidly sentimental again!

[Lunar]

edited the post above a bit.

I'm pretty psyched, I completely didn't realize I'd get an extra army this turn.  Look out, I got plans for it already.  Or Do I?

[Smid]

The retreats were as follows:

France
F Tunis - North Africa
A Tyrolia - Piedmont

Russia
A St Petersburg - Moscow

England
F Baltic Sea - Denmark

Hence:



Subsequent to retreats, the map appears thus:



Nations have the following builds:

France
Remove 1

Russia
Build 1

Italy
No Change

Germany
No Change

Austria-Hungary
No Change

Turkey
No Change

England
Build 1

[Smid]

There was a way I could have stopped you from getting to the Baltic and take St Petersburg, btw. That actually was my first set of orders, but in the end I changed it because if you hadn't moved exactly like you did with your fleets, I would have destroyed my own fleet.

I didn't raise this with you previously because when you mentioned your change in orders, it wasn't specifically a rules query and I felt that it could therefore be coming dangerously close to stepping over the bounds of adjudicator and into the realm of advisor so I remained silent on this point, however pages 13 and 14 of the Rulebook deal with the issue of self-dislodgement (and in this case forced disbandment through self-dislodgement). This is from the top of page 13:

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Perhaps the next illustration details the circumstance of your Baltic Fleet (potentially) failing in a move order, resulting in self-dislodgement (the following example showing that self-dislodgement would not actually occur in that situation). From the top of the second column of page 13 now:

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The example in Diagram 23 shows the French army in Burgundy attempting to move to Marseilles, however the move fails, which is why the French army in Burgundy would have been dislodged if not for the no-self-dislodgement rule.

Page 14 mostly isn't relevent to this particular point, but is still interesting nonetheless.

The important point to note is that the support is "refused or negated when it would otherwise be legal." Effectively, the unit dislodging your fleet in the Baltic Sea would have not moved as the supporting unit's support would have been negated.

I haven't provided details of your original set of orders further then what you have publicly mentioned here, so I trust I haven't overstepped the bounds of privacy and impartiality.

[Хahar 🤔]

...and the Russian capital has fallen and the Tsar has fled.

[minionofmidas]

Ouch.

Why do they have that rule? Just so as to make life difficult?

[Smid]

I've received everyone's build orders, so I'll post them here now and update the map after I get home tonight.

France
Remove F Gulf of Lyon

Russia
Build A Warsaw

England
Build F Edinburgh

[Lunar]

Another fleet for England, mmm

[Lunar]

I've received everyone's build orders, so I'll post them here now and update the map after I get home tonight.

Liar!

Now we'll never know what to do

(but seriously don't bother, s'cool)

[Smid]

I've received everyone's build orders, so I'll post them here now and update the map after I get home tonight.

Liar!

Now we'll never know what to do

(but seriously don't bother, s'cool)

Oh, oops, sorry, my apologies - I'll do that now!

[Lunar]

NOOOooooooooo

[Smid]

[Lunar]

It wasn't quite necessary, but now we know

France looks a lot less scary on my practice maps now.

[Јas]

France looks a lot less scary on my practice maps now.

Good. Following focus group testing and discussions with our PR people, France decided to rebrand itself as the 'cool' and 'friendly' nation.

[Lunar]

France looks a lot less scary on my practice maps now.

Good. Following focus group testing and discussions with our PR people, France decided to rebrand itself as the 'cool' and 'friendly' nation.

Your ad failed among notable key demographics: Turks and Italians under 35

[minionofmidas]

France looks a lot less scary on my practice maps now.

Good. Following focus group testing and discussions with our PR people, France decided to rebrand itself as the 'cool' and 'friendly' nation.

Your ad failed among notable key demographics: Turks and Italians under 35

Are there any?

[Lunar]

errr all Turks and Italians pretty much find the ad campaign unconvincing.

[minionofmidas]

errr all Turks and Italians pretty much find the ad campaign unconvincing.

Ah. That's more worrisome.

[Smid]

Here are the moves:



France
A Ankara - Constantinople
A Burgundy - Marseilles
A Munich - Silesia (*Fails*)
A Naples - Rome (*Dislodged*)
F North Africa - Tunis
A Piedmont - Tuscany
F Tyrrhenian Sea - Ionian Sea
F Western Mediterranean Supports F North Africa - Tunis

Russia
A Armenia - Ankara
F Baltic Sea - Berlin (*Disbanded*)
A Bohemia - Munich (*Fails*)
F Ionian Sea - Naples
F Livonia Supports A Moscow - St Petersburg
A Moscow - St Petersburg (*Bounce*)
A Prussia Supports F Baltic Sea - Berlin
A Sevastopol - Rumania
A Silesia Supports F Baltic Sea - Berlin (*Cut*)
A Tyrolia - Piedmont
A Vienna - Tyrolia
A Warsaw Supports F Livonia

Italy
F Rome Supports F Ionian Sea - Naples
A Venice Supports A Tyrolia - Piedmont

Germany
N/A

Austria-Hungary
N/A

Turkey
F Tunis - Tyrrhenian Sea

England
F Barents Sea Supports A Norway - St Petersburg
A Belgium - Ruhr
F Berlin Supports F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
F Denmark Supports F Gulf of Bothnia - Baltic Sea
F Kiel Supports F Berlin
F North Sea - Helgoland Bight
A Norway - St Petersburg (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg (sc) - Livonia (*Fails*)
A Sweden Hold

Before retreats, the map now appears thus:



Only one retreat is required, so if Jas wishes, he can post it here instead of PMing it to me: F Naples.

Lewis successfully applied last week's lesson on the rule preventing a unit belonging to a particular nation dislodging another unit belonging to that same nation.

[minionofmidas]

Lewis successfully applied last week's lesson on the rule preventing a unit belonging to a particular nation dislodging another unit belonging to that same nation.

Actually, no. My people and Lunar's people moving towards St Pete would have bounced even without that rule.

[Јas]

Retreat Order
A Naples - Apulia

[Lunar]

Why didn't my attack on Berlin work?

[minionofmidas]

The support from Silesia was cut, leaving things at 2-2.

[Lunar]

Yeah I just realized that, I forgot that units can cut support even when they're attacked.

Alas.