what if there was no pearl harbour

[NHPolitico]

FDR was getting us into war come hell or highwater.

He ordered U.S. warships to conduct missions against German U-boats.

We fired first when the U.S. destroyers Greer and Kearney were attacked.

He used made-up British intelligence about Hitler's plans, which didn't exist, for the conquest of South America and the Nazification of Christianity.

He sent picket ships out into the path of the Japanese fleet in the hope they would be sunk.

He gave Lord Halifax secret, but unconstitutional, assurances America would defend His Majesty's colonies in the Pacific.

He spurned a secret peace offer from Japan's Prince Konoye and issued a secret ultimatum to Tojo's regime on Nov. 26, 1941.

As Secretary of War Henry Stimson wrote in his diary two weeks before Pearl Harbor, "We should maneuver them into ... firing the first shot."

[NHPolitico]

FDR was getting us into war come hell or highwater.

He ordered U.S. warships to conduct missions against German U-boats.

We fired first when the U.S. destroyers Greer and Kearney were attacked.

He used made-up British intelligence about Hitler's plans, which didn't exist, for the conquest of South America and the Nazification of Christianity.

He sent picket ships out into the path of the Japanese fleet in the hope they would be sunk.

He gave Lord Halifax secret, but unconstitutional, assurances America would defend His Majesty's colonies in the Pacific.

He spurned a secret peace offer from Japan's Prince Konoye and issued a secret ultimatum to Tojo's regime on Nov. 26, 1941.

As Secretary of War Henry Stimson wrote in his diary two weeks before Pearl Harbor, "We should maneuver them into ... firing the first shot."

It sounds that you think that America's participation in WWII was somehow wrong. Or did I misunderstand?

And it's sure that Christianity was under nazi menace during Third Reich. Nazism is (like communism) deeply anti-christian ideology.

No, just that FDR would have gotten us into WW2 regardless of what happened in Hawaii.

I said that FDR and British intelligence said that Hitler sought to infiltrate and absorb Christianity with Nazism, which is sort of the opposite of what you thought I said.

[NHPolitico]

FDR was getting us into war come hell or highwater.

He ordered U.S. warships to conduct missions against German U-boats.

We fired first when the U.S. destroyers Greer and Kearney were attacked.

He used made-up British intelligence about Hitler's plans, which didn't exist, for the conquest of South America and the Nazification of Christianity.

He sent picket ships out into the path of the Japanese fleet in the hope they would be sunk.

He gave Lord Halifax secret, but unconstitutional, assurances America would defend His Majesty's colonies in the Pacific.

He spurned a secret peace offer from Japan's Prince Konoye and issued a secret ultimatum to Tojo's regime on Nov. 26, 1941.

As Secretary of War Henry Stimson wrote in his diary two weeks before Pearl Harbor, "We should maneuver them into ... firing the first shot."

It sounds that you think that America's participation in WWII was somehow wrong. Or did I misunderstand?

And it's sure that Christianity was under nazi menace during Third Reich. Nazism is (like communism) deeply anti-christian ideology.

No, just that FDR would have gotten us into WW2 regardless of what happened in Hawaii.

I said that FDR and British intelligence said that Hitler sought to infiltrate and absorb Christianity with Nazism, which is sort of the opposite of what you thought I said.

Sorry. My misunderstanding.

No problem. It's all cool.

[NHPolitico]

Hitler's ultimate goal was to replace the Christian churches in Germany with a kind of neo-pagan church.

The Christian Democrats and the Social Democrats were the main political opponents of the Nazis in Germany and Austria. The liberal parties of these countries have been nazi-leaning, which is weird.

Margaret Sanger, a US liberal icon, rationalized birth control as a means of reducing genetically transmitted mental or physical defects, and at times supported sterilization for the mentally incompetent. Sound familiar?

[NHPolitico]

japan does not attack us, us do not join the war. will they would join later, would japan ruled east asaia today? would hitler won in europe?

FDR would have practically paid the Japanese to attack us to get us into WW2.

Militarily, we were woefully prepared for WW2. Had we waited later than we did, it probably would have been nearly too late to meaningfully help out the Allies.  We may have just decided the best course of action would have been to worry about protecting our shores. We would have been up to the task, in my opinion, and wouldn't have had to fear falling to the Axis.   I think a dominance of Japan in Asia and a dominance of Germany in Europe wouldn't have necessarily been as bad for the US as what actually resulted from WW2-- Middle Eastern anger against the US and the Cold War, neither of which would have happened under the new scenario.