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« on: July 30, 2008, 07:27:53 AM »

(that's a title that will get the anti-Zionists running!)

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More at link because it's not cool to cut and paste an entire article...ahem.

This is like recording a prayer.  Not cool.  I hope the kid gets kicked out of Rabbinical school.  The paper should be shunned by the people of Israel.  Total lack of integrity by both.
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« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2008, 08:30:12 AM »

meh. any gutter tabloid rag around the world would do the same. And there are plenty of them.
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« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2008, 09:51:05 AM »

Obama more then likely leaked the note anyhow. Since he's an egotistical bastard.
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« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2008, 10:17:28 AM »

Obama more then likely leaked the note anyhow. Since he's an egotistical bastard.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i7v85iEgvY
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2008, 11:11:49 AM »
« Edited: July 30, 2008, 11:14:00 AM by PiT (The Physicist) »

     How disgusting. Sad I agree that the kid should be kicked out of the seminary if he has so little respect for his own holy place. This would be like a Muslim spray-painting graffiti on the Kaaba Shrine.
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2008, 02:47:50 PM »

That kid should have been kicked out. But oh well people are losing respect for others as we speak/write. It is just goes to show you how the modern society is losing it's integrity.
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« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2008, 02:51:18 PM »

http://volokh.com/posts/1217357718.shtml

Western Wall Note Controversy:

Sen. Obama, in response to the controversy over Israeli newspapers' publication of the note he placed in the Western Wall:

    Asked what he wrote, Obama declined to answer, saying it was a private conversation between him and God.

The Maariv newspaper's response, prompted by the apparently intense criticism of its decision to publish the note:

    "Obama's note was published in Maariv and other international publications following his authorization to make the content of the note public. Obama submitted a copy of the note to media outlets when he left his hotel in Jerusalem. Moreover, since he is not Jewish, there is no violation of privacy as there would be for a Jewish person who places a note in the wall."

UPDATE: Zvika Kreiger at The New Republic's The Plank blog alleges that Maariv never made any such assertion:

    Yesterday, I posted an item about an accusation from Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv that the Obama campaign had leaked a copy of his Western Wall note to the foreign press (rather than Ma'ariv having bought it from some yeshiva kid who stole it out of the wall). After some additional reporting last night, I noted that the story sounded a bit fishy--not only has Ma'ariv not offered any tangible evidence to supprot this claim, but they also have only made the claim via a spokesman to various Israeli papers rather than printing the accusation in their own paper.

    I just got off the phone with a Ma'ariv spokesman who says that the accusation is "completely false," and that he has no idea who these papers were quoting from Ma'ariv. "No official spokesman for Ma'ariv told this to any of the papers." I've got some calls in to these papers to find out where they got the quote. (I'll update here when I hear back.) He told me definitively that "the Obama campaign did not give us a copy of the letter or approve it for printing."

Either there's a huge snafu somewhere (or maybe more than one), or someone is lying. The Maariv's spokesman's response, as reported by The Plank, is very hard to reconcile with Haaretz's statement that "Ma'ariv issued a response Sunday" (the response being the one I quoted above). Either Maariv issued such a response or it didn't, and it's the sort of thing that it seems unlikely Haaretz would make up. But it does sound like someone is making something up somewhere (again, unless there's a very big misunderstanding); fortunately, I expect that the publications' reputations are on the line to the point that some evidence will emerge.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2008, 02:58:17 PM »

     How disgusting. Sad I agree that the kid should be kicked out of the seminary if he has so little respect for his own holy place. This would be like a Muslim spray-painting graffiti on the Kaaba Shrine.

Basically. When I think of the blasphemy that would imply...disgusting.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2008, 03:05:07 PM »

[quote  Moreover, since he is not Jewish, there is no violation of privacy as there would be for a Jewish person who places a note in the wall."[/quote]

That is just not true. It is just like saying if you were Aztec then you would be allowed to have human sacrifice. But Christan's and Jews can't do that because the are not Aztec. That is just wrong period. Religion does not give anyone an excuse to do something wrong. Just cause he is Jewish does not give that kid an excuse to be rude.
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« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2008, 03:07:45 PM »

More at link because it's not cool to cut and paste an entire article...ahem.

It's fun that Bono then posted an entire article...ahem.
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« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2008, 03:30:06 PM »

You needed Jewish in front of the word press Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2008, 03:32:55 PM »

Absolutely disgusting.  Obama placed a personal prayer in the holiest site in Judaism, and I hope both the student and the "newspaper" get what they deserve.
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« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2008, 03:42:35 PM »

Absolutely disgusting.  Obama placed a personal prayer in the holiest site in Judaism, and I hope both the student and the "newspaper" get what they deserve.
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« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2008, 04:01:22 PM »

I don't get why the students would do that. why?
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« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2008, 05:13:42 PM »

I don't get why the students would do that. why?

Money.
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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2008, 05:16:17 PM »

That is a stupid reason. You need a better reason then that. That is bs
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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2008, 05:28:52 PM »

If you wanted to use words to mock the Jewish press.. you should have done it Republican style and said "Jew press"

You know.. Democrat party.. Jew press...
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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2008, 05:57:40 PM »

That was just done to get the blood up in the anti-Zionists (of which there is a little crossover with Obama fan boys).  I'm not tossing the entire Jew press under the bus here.
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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2008, 06:14:29 PM »

That was just done to get the blood up in the anti-Zionists (of which there is a little crossover with Obama fan boys).  I'm not tossing the entire Jew press under the bus here.

ahhh.. okay.. just the really jewy parts? Wink

In all honesty I thought this was a pretty sad incident.  What Obama says to God is none of our business.. though I can't help but feel as if Obama wrote what he did with the thought that it could perhaps be leaked.
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« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2008, 08:52:24 PM »

One would hope.  He'd have to be pretty naive to not half expect it to happen.  If I was the conspiracy type I'd think he did the whole thing on purpose.

The big question is:what does the anti-Zionist left think of Obama sucking up making nice to the "apartheid" govt?
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2008, 01:44:37 PM »

The big question is:what does the anti-Zionist left think of Obama sucking up making nice to the "apartheid" govt?

My thoughts? I don't really care. I don't pretend that Obama, whose PM score is approximately -2, 1, could ever represent my interests.
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2008, 06:13:41 PM »

Just shameful. I already ranted about this on the other topic, so I won't right now.
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« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2008, 07:02:10 PM »

That was just done to get the blood up in the anti-Zionists (of which there is a little crossover with Obama fan boys).  I'm not tossing the entire Jew press under the bus here.

It's almost as if you like it when we have some anti-semitism on this forum. Seriously anti-zionist =/= anti semitism.
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2008, 02:00:23 AM »

Seriously anti-zionist =/= anti semitism.

No.
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« Reply #24 on: August 02, 2008, 02:33:54 AM »


Yes
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