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2008 U.S. Presidential Election Campaign
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Is this scenario possible?
Another 269-269 scenario is more likely than this one
3 (13.6%)
yes
8 (36.4%)
yes, but not likely
10 (45.5%)
no
1 (4.5%)
no 269-269 scenario will likely happen
0 (0%)
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Topic: 269-269 (Read 4622 times)
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #25 on:
September 07, 2008, 09:57:59 pm »
Quote from: GMantis on September 07, 2008, 04:55:49 pm
I think Nevada going Democratic is more likely than New Hampshire going Republican, so the original scenario is the most likely.
NV is more likely to flip than NH because Obama is more likely to win the NPV than McCain. The point is that NV is less likely to flip than CO, which is IMHO what invalidates the original map.
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #26 on:
September 09, 2008, 07:10:32 pm »
Obama must think a tie is likley, he opened an office in Omaha just to to try and win 1 EV in CD-2:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics/AP/story/678770.html
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #27 on:
September 09, 2008, 08:45:47 pm »
More likely, he opened an office in Omaha to help him in Western Iowa. Getting the EV for NE-2 would be nice for him, but I just can't see that being what might put Obama over the top.
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #28 on:
September 11, 2008, 01:20:33 pm »
I have a real feeling that this will actually happen.
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #29 on:
September 11, 2008, 10:20:22 pm »
Quote from: MacFarlan on August 04, 2008, 07:35:10 am
I think it almost inevitable that Obama would win if it goes to the house and his running mate would be chosen by the Senate.
Is that really inevitable? I don't have my copy of the constitution handy, but if I recall correctly the president is chosen by the house, but it is one state equals one vote. I know the democrats will almost certainly have more congressmen, but will they control more state delegations?
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #30 on:
September 11, 2008, 10:26:10 pm »
Quote from: rockhound on September 11, 2008, 10:20:22 pm
Quote from: MacFarlan on August 04, 2008, 07:35:10 am
I think it almost inevitable that Obama would win if it goes to the house and his running mate would be chosen by the Senate.
Is that really inevitable? I don't have my copy of the constitution handy, but if I recall correctly the president is chosen by the house, but it is one state equals one vote. I know the democrats will almost certainly have more congressmen, but will they control more state delegations?
The Democrats have a 27-21 lead, with 2 tied, so they should win that vote.
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J. J.
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #31 on:
September 11, 2008, 10:52:27 pm »
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 11, 2008, 10:26:10 pm
Quote from: rockhound on September 11, 2008, 10:20:22 pm
Quote from: MacFarlan on August 04, 2008, 07:35:10 am
I think it almost inevitable that Obama would win if it goes to the house and his running mate would be chosen by the Senate.
Is that really inevitable? I don't have my copy of the constitution handy, but if I recall correctly the president is chosen by the house, but it is one state equals one vote. I know the democrats will almost certainly have more congressmen, but will they control more state delegations?
Won't that change before the election is certified?
The Democrats have a 27-21 lead, with 2 tied, so they should win that vote.
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #32 on:
September 11, 2008, 10:58:14 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on September 11, 2008, 10:52:27 pm
Quote from: ○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└ on September 11, 2008, 10:26:10 pm
Quote from: rockhound on September 11, 2008, 10:20:22 pm
Quote from: MacFarlan on August 04, 2008, 07:35:10 am
I think it almost inevitable that Obama would win if it goes to the house and his running mate would be chosen by the Senate.
Is that really inevitable? I don't have my copy of the constitution handy, but if I recall correctly the president is chosen by the house, but it is one state equals one vote. I know the democrats will almost certainly have more congressmen, but will they control more state delegations?
The Democrats have a 27-21 lead, with 2 tied, so they should win that vote.
Won't that change before the election is certified?
Hence, the word should. As long as the Democrats have 26 state delegations, they can elect Obama. If they lost 2 state delegations, but retained the Senate, then Biden would become President.
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Re: 269-269
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Reply #33 on:
September 11, 2008, 11:38:01 pm »
Obama- Palin 08
What a ticket that would be.
I really think we could see a 269-269 thing this election, due to how the country has become wht vs blk ..new vs old.
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