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DarthKosh
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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2004, 04:43:36 PM »

well bit skewed ont he poll.  What about PA, dems lose it Bush can lose essentially any of the ones mentioned.

Or there are a lot of little states in play.



The Dems are very unlikely to lose PA and still have a shot at the election. I think if OH goes Dem, then PA will too.

PA is anything but safe for Dems.

Yes, but it's more likely to go Dem than OH.

Don't be so sure.

The last time OH went Dem while PA went GOP was 1948. It's been the other way around in 1960, 1968 and 2000.

Bush will win both.

I didn't say he wouldn't, all I'm saying is that PA is MORE LIKELY to go Dem than Ohio is. Are you disputing that or not?

Yes.

I will restate the question: where would you place PA in relation to the national average?

3 or 4 percent higher then the national average.

You're being intentional with this b/c you like pyramids, right? Wink

3 or 4 percent higher for Bush or for Kerry?

Bush and yes I love pyramids.
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2004, 04:44:39 PM »

well bit skewed ont he poll.  What about PA, dems lose it Bush can lose essentially any of the ones mentioned.

Or there are a lot of little states in play.



The Dems are very unlikely to lose PA and still have a shot at the election. I think if OH goes Dem, then PA will too.

PA is anything but safe for Dems.

Yes, but it's more likely to go Dem than OH.

Don't be so sure.

The last time OH went Dem while PA went GOP was 1948. It's been the other way around in 1960, 1968 and 2000.

Bush will win both.

I didn't say he wouldn't, all I'm saying is that PA is MORE LIKELY to go Dem than Ohio is. Are you disputing that or not?

Yes.

I will restate the question: where would you place PA in relation to the national average?

3 or 4 percent higher then the national average.

You're being intentional with this b/c you like pyramids, right? Wink

3 or 4 percent higher for Bush or for Kerry?

Bush and yes I love pyramids.

Well...so do I... Wink

And you're wrong, no way PA will be more conservative than the national average.
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daniel27
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2004, 04:45:17 PM »

3 % higher for Kerry

well bit skewed ont he poll.  What about PA, dems lose it Bush can lose essentially any of the ones mentioned.

Or there are a lot of little states in play.



The Dems are very unlikely to lose PA and still have a shot at the election. I think if OH goes Dem, then PA will too.

PA is anything but safe for Dems.

Yes, but it's more likely to go Dem than OH.

Don't be so sure.

The last time OH went Dem while PA went GOP was 1948. It's been the other way around in 1960, 1968 and 2000.

Bush will win both.

I didn't say he wouldn't, all I'm saying is that PA is MORE LIKELY to go Dem than Ohio is. Are you disputing that or not?

Yes.

I will restate the question: where would you place PA in relation to the national average?

3 or 4 percent higher then the national average.

You're being intentional with this b/c you like pyramids, right? Wink

3 or 4 percent higher for Bush or for Kerry?
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DarthKosh
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2004, 04:45:47 PM »

well bit skewed ont he poll.  What about PA, dems lose it Bush can lose essentially any of the ones mentioned.

Or there are a lot of little states in play.



The Dems are very unlikely to lose PA and still have a shot at the election. I think if OH goes Dem, then PA will too.

PA is anything but safe for Dems.

Yes, but it's more likely to go Dem than OH.

Don't be so sure.

The last time OH went Dem while PA went GOP was 1948. It's been the other way around in 1960, 1968 and 2000.

Bush will win both.

I didn't say he wouldn't, all I'm saying is that PA is MORE LIKELY to go Dem than Ohio is. Are you disputing that or not?

Yes.

I will restate the question: where would you place PA in relation to the national average?

3 or 4 percent higher then the national average.

You're being intentional with this b/c you like pyramids, right? Wink

3 or 4 percent higher for Bush or for Kerry?

Bush and yes I love pyramids.

Well...so do I... Wink

And you're wrong, no way PA will be more conservative than the national average.

Who says conservative?  I said it swings republican.
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2004, 04:46:52 PM »

Look on my map (daniel27).
I think it will be a very close race. I think Kerry lose Florida. With a lose of 27 Votes it is hard to win.

[uote author=Gustaf link=board=5;threadid=816;start=15#msg28976 date=1077140334]
Gustaf i think your prediction is very good...i only disagree with Florida, Iowa, PA, New Mexiko and Missouri

Thanks, that's good considering that I haven't put that much thought into it yet...you're expecting a Dem landslide then, or what?
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Gustaf
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2004, 04:47:31 PM »

well bit skewed ont he poll.  What about PA, dems lose it Bush can lose essentially any of the ones mentioned.

Or there are a lot of little states in play.



The Dems are very unlikely to lose PA and still have a shot at the election. I think if OH goes Dem, then PA will too.

PA is anything but safe for Dems.

Yes, but it's more likely to go Dem than OH.

Don't be so sure.

The last time OH went Dem while PA went GOP was 1948. It's been the other way around in 1960, 1968 and 2000.

Bush will win both.

I didn't say he wouldn't, all I'm saying is that PA is MORE LIKELY to go Dem than Ohio is. Are you disputing that or not?

Yes.

I will restate the question: where would you place PA in relation to the national average?

3 or 4 percent higher then the national average.

You're being intentional with this b/c you like pyramids, right? Wink

3 or 4 percent higher for Bush or for Kerry?

Bush and yes I love pyramids.

Well...so do I... Wink

And you're wrong, no way PA will be more conservative than the national average.

Who says conservative?  I said it swings republican.

Yeah...same, same but different...
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2004, 04:53:29 PM »

Darth u should make an actuelly prediction......Kerry doesen`l lose Main, PA, Michigan, Ohio, Wiscontsin, and New Mexiko with a nationswide ledge of 3 percent
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2004, 04:55:19 PM »

Darth u should make an actuelly prediction......Kerry doesen`l lose Main, PA, Michigan, Ohio, Wiscontsin, and New Mexiko with a nationswide ledge of 3 percent

It's possible if he runs up the popular vote in California and New York.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2004, 04:57:03 PM »

Ohio, unless polls shows that FL is within reach, of course. But as things stand right now, definitely Ohio.

I agree.  Ohio is the lynchpin for PA, MI, WI, WV, IA, and MN.  Bush MUST keep it, and the Dems need to have it to make gains (or even stand their ground) in the Rust Belt.
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2004, 04:59:23 PM »

Ohio, Florida a close second.
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2004, 05:02:40 PM »

Hey in ur last prediction PA goes for Dem. That Nationwide ledge do u think kerry needs to win PA?

Ohio, unless polls shows that FL is within reach, of course. But as things stand right now, definitely Ohio.

I agree.  Ohio is the lynchpin for PA, MI, WI, WV, IA, and MN.  Bush MUST keep it, and the Dems need to have it to make gains (or even stand their ground) in the Rust Belt.
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2004, 05:05:50 PM »

we are very close in the prdeictions. Why do u think Bush wins Iowa???


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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2004, 05:06:58 PM »

we are very close in the prdeictions. Why do u think Bush wins Iowa???



MiamiU doesn't wanna jinx it, so he'll keep Kerry below 270 in his predcitions no matter what.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2004, 05:08:55 PM »

we are very close in the prdeictions. Why do u think Bush wins Iowa???


What Gustaf says it true, I won't jinx Kerry.

But, I do actually think Bush will pick up Iowa, it was very close in 2000.
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