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« on: August 07, 2008, 02:11:30 AM »

A guy is driving in South Africa during apartheid and speeding. He gets pulled over. He then notices that the cop in question was actually earlier enforcing apartheid on blacks. So he pulls out a gun and blows the cop away.

I vote yes. In fact I'd say that simply killing police for no reason at all in South Africa during apartheid was 100% morally justifiable. If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 02:33:07 AM »

If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

I wish I could have your simplistic mind for just a day, BRTD! Really!
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 02:33:56 AM »

If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

I wish I could have your simplistic mind for just a day, BRTD! Really!

OK were all SS officers evil people? How about Saddam's police?
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 03:15:32 AM »

If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

     Doesn't make him a good guy for shooting the officer. He's what we call a vigilante, which is illegal in pretty much every modern society. Nevermind that his is the train of thought that drives a lot of revenge killings.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 03:17:15 AM »

If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

He's what we call a vigilante, which is illegal in pretty much every modern society.

So what? We're talking about the law in South Africa under apartheid here. Is there any moral legitimacy to that law whatsoever?
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 03:26:29 AM »

If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

He's what we call a vigilante, which is illegal in pretty much every modern society.

So what? We're talking about the law in South Africa under apartheid here. Is there any moral legitimacy to that law whatsoever?

     In the context of itself, it does. I suppose that I made too much of a generalization, though. It's clear to me that you were asking if he's a good guy in the context of this society's morality, not in that one's morality.

     Nevertheless, I would venture to say that he is still not a "good guy" because in the context of our society's morality, unprovoked acts of violence are never justified, regardless of who the other person is. The nice thing about the United States is that every person, no matter how demented or sociopathic, is entitled to due process of law.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 04:00:40 AM »

If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

I wish I could have your simplistic mind for just a day, BRTD! Really!

OK were all SS officers evil people? How about Saddam's police?

I believe that good people that don't wish to cause such harm have been forced into enforcing policies that they might not be in favor of. Welcome to a complex world, my simple friend.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 01:31:37 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2008, 01:35:00 PM »


I know that by damaging your brain you might be able to understand BRTD's logic, but I advise against it.
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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2008, 04:09:55 PM »

Oh God.  He's back.
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2008, 04:15:20 PM »

No.  Don't be an ignorant ass.
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2008, 04:42:38 PM »

not enough information is given to answer said question
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2008, 04:53:02 PM »

A guy is driving in South Africa during apartheid and speeding. He gets pulled over. He then notices that the cop in question was actually earlier enforcing apartheid on blacks. So he pulls out a gun and blows the cop away.

I vote yes. In fact I'd say that simply killing police for no reason at all in South Africa during apartheid was 100% morally justifiable. If you were a cop in South Africa during apartheid, you were a disgusting excuse for a human being. Period, no exceptions;.

Well considering one of the friend of Mandela is one of his own guards, I think you netter start making some.  http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2007/may/20/nelsonmandela
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2008, 06:16:56 PM »

Both capital punishment and vigilante justice are wrong, so, no, he's not a good guy.
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« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2008, 06:19:47 PM »


It would be much less dangerous if you just rolled your eyes and sighed.
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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2008, 06:23:50 PM »

You're one to talk, when you believe that it is America's duty to police the world and overthrow legitimate governments.
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« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2008, 06:29:22 PM »

You're one to talk, when you believe that it is America's duty to police the world and overthrow legitimate governments.
That doesn't make BRTD's comment any less moronic
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« Reply #17 on: August 07, 2008, 06:51:31 PM »

No.
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« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2008, 08:16:00 PM »

You're one to talk, when you believe that it is America's duty to police the world and overthrow legitimate governments.

That's not "ignorance." I think you were looking for "arrogance."
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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2008, 12:21:31 AM »

Sad.
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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2008, 12:31:41 AM »

I'm failing to see how this kind of irrational judgementalism is any better than that I so abhor on the right.
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2008, 12:45:20 AM »

I don't see what's wrong with the logic that only a completely morally bankrupt person could be a cop in a place as reprehensible as South Africa under apartheid.
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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2008, 07:57:26 AM »

I don't see what's wrong with the logic that only a completely morally bankrupt person could be a cop in a place as reprehensible as South Africa under apartheid.
Your logic is probably correct, but that doesn't make it ok to shoot him!
Are you pro-death penalty BRTD?
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« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2008, 07:59:51 AM »

I don't see what's wrong with the logic that only a completely morally bankrupt person could be a cop in a place as reprehensible as South Africa under apartheid.
Yeah, because God forbid a "good" person would want to join the local policing agency to try and make things better.  Or was (is?) every white person on the dark continent a horrible person in your eyes?  As I'm sure you've read here a thousand times, the world isn't as black and white as it appears through your young eyes.
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« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2008, 10:03:16 AM »

Haha, I don't know if this gunslinger is 'good' or 'bad', but I like him - he sounds a real character.  Full of fun.
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