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DownWithTheLeft
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« Reply #1350 on: October 03, 2009, 03:55:15 PM »


     Okay. I think it'll be in Indianapolis since Sewer's vote should be counted & also Smid & dead0man voted too late.
What?  That's sets a horrible precedent if we count Sewer's vote.  I ask that the convention then be halted until Duke can rule on the matter
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« Reply #1351 on: October 03, 2009, 03:56:00 PM »

Does which city we host our convention really matter enough to delay the convention, possibly until tomorrow?
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« Reply #1352 on: October 03, 2009, 03:56:32 PM »


     Okay. I think it'll be in Indianapolis since Sewer's vote should be counted & also Smid & dead0man voted too late.
What?  That's sets a horrible precedent if we count Sewer's vote.  I ask that the convention then be halted until Duke can rule on the matter

What horrible precedent? That members of the party can vote?
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #1353 on: October 03, 2009, 03:57:15 PM »

Second the motion to hold for Duke's ruling.
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« Reply #1354 on: October 03, 2009, 03:58:58 PM »

What horrible precedent? That members of the party can vote?
No, the idea that vote stacking is allowed.  My CRs had a similar problem last year, some kid brought all his friends to one meeting and vote so he would get a spot on the board.  This lead to adaption of a new constitution that included a clause saying you needed to attend 50% of meetings to vote.  The RPP needs something similar like that you must have been in the party for a certain amount of time, otherwise people could just join our party to vote on internal matters and then leave.  There are too many possible issues that could come at this convention to allow stunts like this to be precedent.
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« Reply #1355 on: October 03, 2009, 03:59:36 PM »


     Okay. I think it'll be in Indianapolis since Sewer's vote should be counted & also Smid & dead0man voted too late.
What?  That's sets a horrible precedent if we count Sewer's vote.  I ask that the convention then be halted until Duke can rule on the matter

What horrible precedent? That members of the party can vote?
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« Reply #1356 on: October 03, 2009, 03:59:52 PM »

     How about we just start the convention now & say it's in a city "to be determined"? We're already starting late as it is.
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« Reply #1357 on: October 03, 2009, 04:00:51 PM »

    How about we just start the convention now & say it's in a city "to be determined"? We're already starting late as it is.

I second the motion.
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« Reply #1358 on: October 03, 2009, 04:01:03 PM »

    How about we just start the convention now & say it's in a city "to be determined"? We're already starting late as it is.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #1359 on: October 03, 2009, 04:01:16 PM »

Rowan and Sewer... Big Troll supporting Small Troll that is actually funny
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« Reply #1360 on: October 03, 2009, 04:02:05 PM »

What horrible precedent? That members of the party can vote?
No, the idea that vote stacking is allowed.  My CRs had a similar problem last year, some kid brought all his friends to one meeting and vote so he would get a spot on the board.  This lead to adaption of a new constitution that included a clause saying you needed to attend 50% of meetings to vote.  The RPP needs something similar like that you must have been in the party for a certain amount of time, otherwise people could just join our party to vote on internal matters and then leave.  There are too many possible issues that could come at this convention to allow stunts like this to be precedent.
That's a good idea for a party bylaw. Maybe, you have to be a member of the party for two weeks to participate in party votes?
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« Reply #1361 on: October 03, 2009, 04:03:03 PM »

I will motion for a "No Sewer or Rowan Clause" banning infamous trolls.
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« Reply #1362 on: October 03, 2009, 04:03:40 PM »

Rowan and Sewer... Big Troll supporting Small Troll that is actually funny

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« Reply #1363 on: October 03, 2009, 04:11:59 PM »

I will motion for a "No Sewer or Rowan Clause" banning infamous trolls.

Reminds me of the legendarily successful AUB.
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« Reply #1364 on: October 03, 2009, 04:13:03 PM »

I will motion for a "No Hamilton Clause" banning infamous trolls.
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Rowan
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« Reply #1365 on: October 03, 2009, 07:02:10 PM »

I would like private forum access please.
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« Reply #1366 on: October 03, 2009, 07:04:09 PM »



There you go. I was saving that torch for...something that did not quite come to pass.
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« Reply #1367 on: October 03, 2009, 07:05:20 PM »



There you go. I was saving that torch for...something that did not quite come to pass.

I like it; Both of the ones we made were good.
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« Reply #1368 on: October 03, 2009, 07:15:11 PM »

After reading through this, I find actions surronding the counting of the votes despicable and criminal. Rule are rules and must be applied equally and fairly to everyone.
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« Reply #1369 on: November 08, 2009, 07:35:31 PM »

BUMP

The party needs to take a more active role, regional senate seats are almost in as much danger as they were in August 2008.  With smaller numbers we defeated this absurd proposal but we need to organize the way we were back then. 
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #1370 on: November 09, 2009, 11:21:38 AM »

Any members of this party who believe in small government should head to the New Register Thread and join the Atlasia Reform Coalition.
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« Reply #1371 on: November 09, 2009, 01:55:14 PM »

I think many sectors of the PC believe in smaller government, but the question that arises is how will your party, or our party for that matter, accomplish this in the Atlasia environment? As I have said, I am for smaller government, more civil liberties, lower taxes, and lower government spending, but I am a realist first and foremost in knowing that changes like that, economically speaking, are pretty unrealistic given the makeup of Atlasia at its present. I look favorably to any party that espouses those said principles, but realize it may not be a realistic goal given the disproportionate number of left leaners in this "nation."

Unlike others, I will wish you luck in your endeavors.
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« Reply #1372 on: November 09, 2009, 01:59:49 PM »

Well, for starters, our party will be more accessible for most Atlasians, being less ideologically-driven. You have to give props to a party that can house me, Einzige, and Libertas all at once.

We don't hate the Progressive Conservatives. We just hate their lack of adherence to small government principles. The party might not be able to win the Midwest Senate seat or the Mideast Senate seat without big government supporters like Tmth and MJ, but why do they still support the same populist ideologues in the Southeast and At-Large. Einzige is right when he says that the libertarian wing is stifled. Much like the Republican Party, you abandon the base in the swing states/regions but then you use the same strategies for the safe seats, essentially abandoning much of the base altogether.
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« Reply #1373 on: November 09, 2009, 02:13:06 PM »

Our base since our founding has always been to preserve the rights of regions and ensure that certain rights were not infringed upon by the federal government, with an end goal of transferring certain powers from the federal government to the regions. In fact, ideologies in Atlasia, back when I joined and the RPP was founded, was basically regionalists versus anti-regionalists, rather than the left and right we see today. The PC has had libertarians, liberals, populists and conservatives elected to office in our existence, and there is nothing to suggest we are not going to do that again in the future. Our current makeup is not what it was, but we are not a purist, single ideology party, which is funny considering you and Eizign claim we are too purist. But we haven't abandoned our base as long as we fight for regional rights. That is our base.
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Alexander Hamilton
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« Reply #1374 on: November 09, 2009, 02:14:27 PM »

Nationalistic populism defies regional governments their own self-governance.
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