Regional Protection Party

[big bad fab]

I'm sorry, my friends, but in AtlasWiki, you've forgotten me in Ohio. Maybe in your map and count as well...
A pity, as I'll be loyal in my votes, believe me ! And in MidEast, I'll be useful I think...

[big bad fab]

I'm sorry, my friends, but in AtlasWiki, you've forgotten me in Ohio. Maybe in your map and count as well...
A pity, as I'll be loyal in my votes, believe me ! And in MidEast, I'll be useful I think...

     You mean the membership list? I stopped updating that a while ago, but I could resume with it. Also, I definitely counted you in the map. We don't have any other party members in Ohio.

Yeah, the membership list. In fact, many lists (voters, etc) seem a bot outdated... Never mind.

Oh, so, on the map, I haven't understood colors... Too many maps for the "what-ifs" sections I think...

[big bad fab]

Yeah, fine.
A good logo as it's an idea put into an image.

[big bad fab]

Do we have to issue regional endorsements?  I mean seriously I think everyone knows who we support in each election.  If anyone actually wants to have a vote on that stuff, I gave I am obligated by by-laws but seriously it would be a huge waste of time.

I agree.
The more we organize internal debates on things not compulsory, the more there are attempts to divide the party or the more personal criteria and "stories" may prevail on idea and institutional behaviour.
And, anyways, the individual vote remains free.

[big bad fab]

I agree with you Big Bad Fab, but that actually wasn't even what I was thinking about

And you were thinking about... ?

[big bad fab]

The life of a political party is always an uneasily-reached balance between direct democracy and efficiency.

Parties which are embedded in institutions for a long time, either because of false democratic system (Paraguayan Colorado party), or because of history (Mexican PRI, South African ANC), or because of structurally strong following (Japanese LDP, Atlasian JCP or its predecessors), can afford open divisions, delays in picking leadership, etc.

But for parties with fading support (French Socialist party) or for young parties (Germany's Die Linke, Atlasian RPP), you also need to have an efficient and coherent leadership and to be able to take quick decisions, which are, a bit later, validated or reversed by a gathering of all the members.
Otherwise, you lose and, what is more, you've got parochial trends that are, eventually, contrary to democracy (see the French Socialist party, see the UK's Labour nowadays).

Hadn't the RPP taken a quick decision, some people outside the party would have criticized him for not being able to draw conclusions from its disappointing result and not being so alive.

This party is alive, shows that it's not one man's thing like Bayrou's French Democrat Movement, has gained one seat and is ready to keep on !

[big bad fab]

The RPP is the Really Perpetual Party: it will never collapse !

[big bad fab]

The RPP is the Really Perpetual Party: it will never collapse !

It will become "The Party" like in 1984!

If it's not like in "The Party" with Peter Sellers...

More seriously, guys, don't you think that this party doesn't fit the image you (try to) stick to it ?

Duke, Tmthforu, PiT, NiK, NCYankee, Smid, Hamilton, etc, are all moderates in ideas, even if not always in formal aspects, but it's perfectly legitimate as the debate should be full of life.
And when you've got a situation structurally difficult, you have to fight.

So, please use less dumb recipes than quoting DWTL ever and ever and ever
That's becoming a bit... boring.

[big bad fab]

1. Mideast
2. Midwest
3. Northeast
4. Pacific
5. Dirty South

[big bad fab]

After a year and a great run, this party is not what it was, thanks God.  ItsMy chairmanship was a sham and its a shame.  The membersI have truly lost their my way and I hope that theyI can find it.  For those of you who wish to truly preserve regional rightsmy own little power I urge you to join the new party I will be creating that will basically be what the RPP before I took my long hiatusscrewed it up.  For now, I will be in the JCP helping to dismantle this sham RPP

I'm sorry to do this as it's not in my nature, but I must say I'm fed up with this pride, this vanity, this futility, this boyishness.

Now, I urge all the forumers to think again about joining a party led by an open and moderate chairman, AHDuke, with members from progressive (Hamilton), moderate (NiK, Tmth), libertarian (PiT), conservative, etc, origins.

A party which can now be at ease, quiet, pacified. And really open, which is quite rare in Atlasia.

Join the RPP !
The Rosy and Peppermint Party !

[big bad fab]

That's why, generally speaking,

I urge all the forumers to think again about joining a party led by an open and moderate chairman, AHDuke, with members from progressive (Hamilton), moderate (NiK, Tmth), libertarian (PiT), conservative, etc, origins.

A party which can now be at ease, quiet, pacified. And really open, which is quite rare in Atlasia.

Join the RPP !
The Rosy and Peppermint Party !

Join the Relieved and Peaceful Party !
Join the Respectful and Polite Party !
Join the Really Popular Party !
Join the RPP !
Welcome !

[big bad fab]

Can someone get a vote tally on the region for the convention?  I think once we do that we can pick a city quite soon and hopefully get the ball on a longer than usual convention where we can hammer out all that is troubling us.  Now that I am assured there are not going to be any convention surprises, it should be rather smooth.

I'm pretty sure it's the RPP here, not the ORPP.

[big bad fab]

The RPP was doing much better when I was chair.  We have two signifigant downturns, when I took a long break and since I stepped down as chair.

YOU are a chaos.

[big bad fab]

My friends, just ignore Sewer.

Well, I could have been tempted to put forward a big city from Ohio ().
Though I'd be pleased with Chicago,

Milwaukee would be a good choice.

[big bad fab]

Oh and DWTL's vote shouldn't have counted in "first" round, since he is a member of the ORPP, not the RPP.

[big bad fab]

1. Milwaukee
2. Indianapolis
3. Chicago
4. Detroit

[big bad fab]

NC Yankee

[big bad fab]

Blank vote.

So that it counts for the quorum,
but so that I can say I agree on the need to scratch a now failed name (PCP) but I don't agree to go back to RPP, as it has also failed (even if fro different reasons).

Of course, if the blank vote isn't considered as a real and complete vote, just let it me know, I'll cast another vote (no rule against that !).

[big bad fab]

Blank vote.

So that it counts for the quorum,
but so that I can say I agree on the need to scratch a now failed name (PCP) but I don't agree to go back to RPP, as it has also failed (even if fro different reasons).

Of course, if the blank vote isn't considered as a real and complete vote, just let it me know, I'll cast another vote (no rule against that !).

Here here!

I even say that even Regional Rights Party would be better, but again, I think Conservative is the best option.

I know, your proposal is simple and clear. Adn I thank you to be a force for change in the name.

But, for the moment, this is more a procedural vote: to erase the latest name change.
Let's our chairman proceed. He thinks it's better first to erase PCP and then to relaunch the process. Then we'll be able to propose, discuss, think, vote and comply with the final result.

Don't worry, I'll be active too for a new name .

[big bad fab]

we care 0 about official things

This man does not speak for me.

[big bad fab]

Just fold already lol

You've convinced some of our weaker members that we can't win, but the ones with a brain are sitll standing

I'm so bored with this game that even this doesn't anger me any longer.

DWTL, you have the ability to kill your own party in every sentence which is THEORETICALLY aimed at outside Atlasians !! Amazing...

[big bad fab]

I'm very serious regarding this suggestion:

Just fold already lol

You've convinced some of our weaker members that we can't win, but the ones with a brain are sitll standing

You really ought to split into a libertarian and a populist Party - at the very least, the populists ought to join the JCP and try to infiltrate it and turn it from social democracy.

The RPP isn't only libertarians and populists...
It's not just as you see the world...