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« on: August 07, 2008, 06:27:08 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kissinger
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« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2008, 07:54:15 PM »

I vote positive, btw.
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2008, 08:24:28 PM »

     Super negative. Kissinger was one of several figures who pressured Nixon into abandoning Operation Duck Hook. I can't have a positive opinion of someone who was that dead set on losing Vietnam.
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« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2008, 08:26:19 PM »

     Super negative. Kissinger was one of several figures who pressured Nixon into abandoning Operation Duck Hook. I can't have a positive opinion of someone who was that dead set on losing Vietnam.

I'm not convinced Duck Hook would have worked anyway; it may have drawn China/USSR into the war, which would have been even worse for us.
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2008, 11:42:52 PM »

Probably the most disgusting little shit to have ever set foot in the White House.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2008, 11:47:43 PM »

     Super negative. Kissinger was one of several figures who pressured Nixon into abandoning Operation Duck Hook. I can't have a positive opinion of someone who was that dead set on losing Vietnam.

I'm not convinced Duck Hook would have worked anyway; it may have drawn China/USSR into the war, which would have been even worse for us.

     We really had three options before us.

1. Operation Duck Hook
2. Nuke Hanoi
3. Lose (which is what we did)

     Duck Hook was far from a guaranteed success, but what we were doing before it was a definite losing course.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2008, 11:55:06 PM »

He was good at his job.  He is also an individual with great stains on his conscience.  I'm not sure how to vote: in the process of accomplishing great good (detente with Russia, relations with China, the split-up of the Sino-Soviet Alliance), he did great evil (illegal bombing of Cambodia that led to the rise of the truly monstrous Khmer Rouge, removing a harmless democratically-elected leftist in Chile and replacing him with strongarm dictator).  I simply can't vote.
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« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2008, 11:59:47 PM »

He was good at his job.  He is also an individual with great stains on his conscience.  I'm not sure how to vote: in the process of accomplishing great good (detente with Russia, relations with China, the split-up of the Sino-Soviet Alliance), he did great evil (illegal bombing of Cambodia that led to the rise of the truly monstrous Khmer Rouge, removing a harmless democratically-elected leftist in Chile and replacing him with strongarm dictator).  I simply can't vote.

     You could vote neutral.
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2008, 12:04:05 AM »

He was good at his job.  He is also an individual with great stains on his conscience.  I'm not sure how to vote: in the process of accomplishing great good (detente with Russia, relations with China, the split-up of the Sino-Soviet Alliance), he did great evil (illegal bombing of Cambodia that led to the rise of the truly monstrous Khmer Rouge, removing a harmless democratically-elected leftist in Chile and replacing him with strongarm dictator).  I simply can't vote.

The main reason why he wanted to open up relations with China was because he greatly admired their government. You have to remember that Kissinger despised democracy.


Just look at his comments after the Tiananmen square massacre, for one.
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2008, 12:29:28 AM »

War criminal.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2008, 12:42:27 AM »

Probably the most disgusting little shit to have ever set foot in the White House.
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« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2008, 09:45:41 AM »

Probably the most disgusting little shit to have ever set foot in the White House.

No, that would be The Decider.  Or maybe Cheney.  But yeah -- Kissinger is pretty far up on the asshole list.
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« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2008, 01:13:28 PM »

     Super negative. Kissinger was one of several figures who pressured Nixon into abandoning Operation Duck Hook. I can't have a positive opinion of someone who was that dead set on losing Vietnam.

I'm not convinced Duck Hook would have worked anyway; it may have drawn China/USSR into the war, which would have been even worse for us.

     We really had three options before us.

1. Operation Duck Hook
2. Nuke Hanoi
3. Lose (which is what we did)
     Duck Hook was far from a guaranteed success, but what we were doing before it was a definite losing course.
Who really gives a sh**t about whether we lost or not? Did anything terrible happen because of it?
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« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2008, 03:17:28 PM »

     Super negative. Kissinger was one of several figures who pressured Nixon into abandoning Operation Duck Hook. I can't have a positive opinion of someone who was that dead set on losing Vietnam.

I'm not convinced Duck Hook would have worked anyway; it may have drawn China/USSR into the war, which would have been even worse for us.

     We really had three options before us.

1. Operation Duck Hook
2. Nuke Hanoi
3. Lose (which is what we did)
     Duck Hook was far from a guaranteed success, but what we were doing before it was a definite losing course.
Who really gives a sh**t about whether we lost or not? Did anything terrible happen because of it?

South Vietnam fell to the Communists, and remains Communist to this day.
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« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2008, 04:37:24 AM »

Pffft. Another HP.
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« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2008, 07:11:34 AM »

A very clever man... and a amoral bastard.
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« Reply #16 on: August 09, 2008, 07:02:14 PM »

Who really gives a sh**t about whether we lost or not? Did anything terrible happen because of it?

South Vietnam fell to the Communists, and remains Communist to this day.

It's karma for the North Vietnamese "attacking" the USS Maddox on August 2, 1964, not to mention NSA reports released in 2005 suggest that the USS Maddox wasn't attacked, nor were there any North Vietnamese boats present in the Gulf.

On the matter of Communism across the World, who would have thought that Communism would still be considered as a threat to interests of the United States in the 21st Century? Obviously Mr. Constine thinks so. You have some weird beliefs my friend and I'm not the only one, on the Atlas Forum to believe that you do.



As for Henry Kissinger, I believe like Al, that Kissinger is a very intelligent man and one cannot deny how intelligent Kissinger is, however one cannot deny as well some of the atrocities Kissinger helped shape during the course of the Nixon and Ford Administrations, though more so the former rather than the latter. Such atrocities include the overthrowing of the democratically elected President of Chile Salvador Allende and President of Argentina Isabel Peron, not to mention American policies in Vietnam, the Indo-Pakistan War of 1971, etc.
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