Legalization of Heroin Bill (Motion to Table At Vote)

[minionofmidas]

Generally when the price goes down, the demand goes up. 

Hardly ever happens irl, or rather only with products everybody wants but most people just cannot afford. It's more like, when the demand goes up, the price goes up. Which certainly happened with heroin in the past. And demand has been declining for decades now, actually.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Making it illegal to obtain is what keeps it so popular.

Actually, it would be its insanely addictive nature that makes it so popular.

Teenagers smoke to rebel.  They don't shoot up with heroin to rebel.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Making it illegal to obtain is what keeps it so popular.

Actually, it would be its insanely addictive nature that makes it so popular.

Teenagers smoke to rebel.  They don't shoot up with heroin to rebel.

Depends on how hard they want to rebel.  They point remains that I think we can all agree the government trying to stop it does nothing.  Would the senators opposed be willing to work toward a compromise similar to what was done with LSD?

[CultureKing]

can my motion to table be brought up for a vote?

I want to end this as fast as possible.

[Colin]

I motion to table this bill.


I cannot say enough how much I oppose this legislation.

All right I am opening a vote on the motion to table. I had not seen this before, I'm sorry I missed it.


Please vote, Aye, Nay, or Abstain on the motion to table the Legalization of Heroin Bill.

[minionofmidas]

My amendment was offered before the motion to table.

I haven't memorized the OSPR by heart and am therefore not sure if this matters... but it certainly should.

[Colin]

My amendment was offered before the motion to table.

I haven't memorized the OSPR by heart and am therefore not sure if this matters... but it certainly should.

No, not for a motion to table. If he had put forward a motion for cloture that would have been impossible due to your amendment being under debate. The motion to table, however, can be called at any time during the debate, even if there is an introduced amendment being debated.

[minionofmidas]

Nay.

[Meeker]

Aye

[Torie]

Aye.  Nay.

I am prepared to support something like this., but not this.

Addendum: Out of deference to DWTL, I will do some major surgery on this Bill in the form of an Amendment going the Swiss route. If the amendment fails, we can redo the tabling.

[Colin]

Aye

[DownWithTheLeft]

Aye.

I am prepared to support something like this., but not this.

Torie that link brought me to nothing except a sheet to sign up for something

[Torie]

It's a teaser, but has the below. You can google Switzerland and heroin and find more. I think we should go the Switzerland route first. Little steps for little people or something. I don't like being first into a brave new world.

Heroin use drops in Switzerland.(statistical data)(Brief article)

From:
    Clinical Psychiatry News
Date:
    July 1, 2006
Author:
    Wachter, Kerri

Heroin use in Zurich and, by extrapolation, in all of Switzerland, appears to have dropped by 82% since its peak in 1990, reported Carlos Nordt, Ph.D., and Dr. Rudolf Stohler of Psychiatric University Hospital, Zurich.

The researchers attributed this striking decline to Switzerland's liberal drug policy, which provides "safe" rooms where users can consume heroin, treatments during which users are sometimes provided with free heroin, needle exchange services, and virtually unrestricted access to methadone programs.

Before this policy was implemented, the estimated incidence of heroin use in Zurich was comparable with that in Italy and in New South Wales, Australia. Of ...

[DownWithTheLeft]

^^

This is the type of compromise I'm referring to, why not propose something similar in an amendment?

[Torie]

OK, but it won't be until this weekend. I try to craft amendments that have some effort behind them, to get it right. If the Bill is tabled, I will still do it, but it will be in the back of the queue I guess if the tabling motion passes.

[DownWithTheLeft]

OK, but it won't be until this weekend. I try to craft amendments that have some effort behind them, to get it right. If the Bill is tabled, I will still do it, but it will be in the back of the queue I guess if the tabling motion passes.

You could just vote against talbing, its not like the senate is going to do anything between now and then

[Torie]

Done. You are pretty good diplomatic skills DWTL. Pity that so many don't  discern them so far.

[DownWithTheLeft]

Done. You are pretty good diplomatic skills DWTL. Pity that so many don't  discern them so far.

Hey, what can I say?

[CultureKing]

aye

[AndrewTX]

aye

[afleitch]

Aye - then I can sharpen my knife.

[Torie]

Hasn't the motion to table, carried?

[Ebowed]

The legislastion has been tabled.