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Colin
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ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 10, 2008, 11:27:57 pm »
The
Amendment [to be determined] to the Constitution
has passed the Senate. I would appreciate it if the Governors began their votes as soon as possible.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 11, 2008, 09:57:27 am »
Don't you think it might be time to determine it?
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 11, 2008, 12:40:47 pm »
This is what I think was voted on:
Amendment to the Atlasian Constitution to Preserve and Protect a Republican form of government for the Regions of Atlasia:
Be it resolved that:
The constitution of Atlasia be amended by insertion of the following text as Article IV, Section 1, Clause 5.
"The President is empowered to direct the Secretary of Forum Affairs (i) to conduct elections for office or vote on referenda or the ratification of constitutional amendments within the regions of Atlasia in such instances where the regional authority responsible for doing so fails to open a voting booth to conduct such elections for office or vote on referenda or constitutional amendment within 72 hours after the earliest legally specified time for doing so, and (ii) in instances where such a regional voting booth has been opened, to close such voting booth and/or certify any vote result thereof if such regional authority fails to so act as otherwise required by law."
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 11, 2008, 09:54:18 pm »
I urge all supporters of regional rights to vote against this seizure of power by the federal government
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 12:37:06 am »
So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 01:44:15 am »
Quote from: TCash101 on August 12, 2008, 12:37:06 am
So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?
I would assume it includes regional votes since it does not specify what sorts of elections & referenda.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: TCash101 on August 12, 2008, 12:37:06 am
So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?
Regional votes as well. I am postitive because I proposed an amendment that it could only deal with federal elections and it was voted down.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 09:20:09 am »
At this point it looks destin to fail in the Southeast/Dirty South
Currently Tally is 1 in favor 5 opposed, with SPC certain to vote no
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 09:38:26 am »
It's going to come down to the whims of the underpopulated Midwest.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: TCash101 on August 12, 2008, 12:37:06 am
So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?
The amendment empowers the SoFA to intervene in those situations, but only in cases where a vote on something would be required by regional law, and in cases where said law has been ignored for a minimum of 72 hours.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 12:13:31 pm »
Quote from: Lord Tolloller on August 12, 2008, 09:38:26 am
It's going to come down to the whims of the underpopulated Midwest.
It currently stands at 1-2 in the Midwest. It seems though that governors really hate this amendment. It stands at 3-1 in the Pacific, with Governor bgwah being the only one to vote against it. Governor ilikeverin voted against it, as has Governor Duke. Governor Sensei has voted aye & Governor Lief hasn't voted yet. It's easy to see how much governors seem to dislike it though.
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Senator MaxQue
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: PiT (The Physicist) on August 12, 2008, 12:13:31 pm
Quote from: Lord Tolloller on August 12, 2008, 09:38:26 am
It's going to come down to the whims of the underpopulated Midwest.
It currently stands at 1-2 in the Midwest. It seems though that governors really hate this amendment. It stands at 3-1 in the Pacific, with Governor bgwah being the only one to vote against it. Governor ilikeverin voted against it, as has Governor Duke. Governor Sensei has voted aye & Governor Lief hasn't voted yet. It's easy to see how much governors seem to dislike it though.
That is understandable. They are fearing losing a power. Since that is the main power they have, sadly, they don't like the amendment.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 12:46:33 pm »
^ The general idea is good, but the actual amendment is far too vague for me to vote for.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 04:53:39 pm »
The regionalism here is incredible. It's easily passing in the Pacific, Mideast, & Northeast. It's failing badly in the Southeast. The Midwest is the only close region, where it's failing narrowly.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 12, 2008, 11:01:45 pm »
This would be a huge blow to regional power if this passes. I URGE all citizens to vote "NAY"!
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Governor, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 12, 2008, 11:01:45 pm
This would be a huge blow to regional power if this passes. I URGE all citizens to vote "NAY"!
You should join the Regional Protection Party. We're devoted to fighting off attempts by the Federal Government to neuter the regions.
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Vasall des Midas
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: PiT (The Physicist) on August 12, 2008, 11:04:12 pm
Quote from: Fmr. Chairman, Fmr. Governor, & Queen Mum Inks.LWC on August 12, 2008, 11:01:45 pm
This would be a huge blow to regional power if this passes. I URGE all citizens to vote "NAY"!
You should join the Regional Protection Party. We're devoted to fighting off attempts by the Federal Government to neuter the regions.
Actually, they're attempts to get around putting the poor neutered old bastards out of their misery.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 13, 2008, 01:33:36 pm »
It's now at
3-1 in the Pacific
2-2 in the Midwest
7-1 in the Mideast
3-5 in the Southeast
8-0 in the Northeast
A nationwide total of 23-9, yet it's on track to fail. Regions forever!
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PASOK Leader Hashemite
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 13, 2008, 01:51:09 pm »
Ugh.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: PiT (The Physicist) on August 13, 2008, 01:33:36 pm
It's now at
3-1 in the Pacific
2-2 in the Midwest
7-1 in the Mideast
3-5 in the Southeast
8-0 in the Northeast
A nationwide total of 23-9, yet it's on track to fail. Regions forever!
hold on there... all the ayes need is one vote in the Midwest.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: κυβερνήτης Sensei on August 13, 2008, 01:53:50 pm
Quote from: PiT (The Physicist) on August 13, 2008, 01:33:36 pm
It's now at
3-1 in the Pacific
2-2 in the Midwest
7-1 in the Mideast
3-5 in the Southeast
8-0 in the Northeast
A nationwide total of 23-9, yet it's on track to fail. Regions forever!
hold on there... all the ayes need is one vote in the Midwest.
True. Another thing is that all of the margin is from the Mideast & Northeast. It's 15-1 there, while being 8-8 in the other three regions.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 13, 2008, 01:56:14 pm »
Just a note, Northeast regional law already allows for this under legislation passed when I was Governor.
http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeastern_Voting_Regulations
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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August 13, 2008, 02:06:02 pm »
Of course, it would be the Southeast that rejects this. Because, of course, the Southeast was the reason I found it necessary to draft this amendment in the first place.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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Quote from: Mr. Moderate, President on August 13, 2008, 02:06:02 pm
Of course, it would be the Southeast that rejects this. Because, of course, the Southeast was the reason I found it necessary to draft this amendment in the first place.
It's tied in the Midwest currently. Then again, the Midwest is such an underpopulated region, bizarre results out of there are not surprising in the least.
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Re: ATTN Governors: An Amendment has Passed the Senate
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