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« on: August 10, 2008, 11:27:57 pm »
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The Amendment [to be determined] to the Constitution has passed the Senate. I would appreciate it if the Governors began their votes as soon as possible.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2008, 09:57:27 am »
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Don't you think it might be time to determine it? Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2008, 12:40:47 pm »
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This is what I think was voted on:

Amendment to the Atlasian Constitution to  Preserve and Protect a Republican form of government for the Regions of Atlasia:

Be it resolved that:

The constitution of Atlasia be amended by insertion of the following text as Article IV, Section 1, Clause 5.

"The President is empowered to direct the Secretary of Forum Affairs  (i) to conduct elections for office or vote on referenda or the ratification of constitutional amendments within the regions of Atlasia in such instances where  the regional authority responsible for doing so fails to open a voting booth to conduct such elections for office or vote on  referenda or constitutional amendment  within 72 hours after the earliest legally specified time for doing so, and (ii) in instances where such a regional voting booth has been opened,  to close such voting booth and/or certify any vote result thereof if such regional authority fails to so act as otherwise required by law."
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2008, 09:54:18 pm »
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I urge all supporters of regional rights to vote against this seizure of power by the federal government
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2008, 12:37:06 am »
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So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?
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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2008, 01:44:15 am »
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So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?

     I would assume it includes regional votes since it does not specify what sorts of elections & referenda.
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« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2008, 08:04:16 am »
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So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?
Regional votes as well.  I am postitive because I proposed an amendment that it could only deal with federal elections and it was voted down.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2008, 09:20:09 am »
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At this point it looks destin to fail in the Southeast/Dirty South Smiley

Currently Tally is 1 in favor 5 opposed, with SPC certain to vote no
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2008, 09:38:26 am »
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It's going to come down to the whims of the underpopulated Midwest.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2008, 10:19:24 am »
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So, does this mean the SoFA can step in and conduct regional referenda and amendments to the regional Constitutions, or just on federal votes?

The amendment empowers the SoFA to intervene in those situations, but only in cases where a vote on something would be required by regional law, and in cases where said law has been ignored for a minimum of 72 hours.
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« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2008, 12:13:31 pm »
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It's going to come down to the whims of the underpopulated Midwest.

     It currently stands at 1-2 in the Midwest. It seems though that governors really hate this amendment. It stands at 3-1 in the Pacific, with Governor bgwah being the only one to vote against it. Governor ilikeverin voted against it, as has Governor Duke. Governor Sensei has voted aye & Governor Lief hasn't voted yet. It's easy to see how much governors seem to dislike it though.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2008, 12:40:25 pm »
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It's going to come down to the whims of the underpopulated Midwest.

     It currently stands at 1-2 in the Midwest. It seems though that governors really hate this amendment. It stands at 3-1 in the Pacific, with Governor bgwah being the only one to vote against it. Governor ilikeverin voted against it, as has Governor Duke. Governor Sensei has voted aye & Governor Lief hasn't voted yet. It's easy to see how much governors seem to dislike it though.

That is understandable. They are fearing losing a power. Since that is the main power they have, sadly, they don't like the amendment.
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2008, 12:46:33 pm »
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^ The general idea is good, but the actual amendment is far too vague for me to vote for.
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2008, 04:53:39 pm »
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     The regionalism here is incredible. It's easily passing in the Pacific, Mideast, & Northeast. It's failing badly in the Southeast. The Midwest is the only close region, where it's failing narrowly.
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« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2008, 11:01:45 pm »
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This would be a huge blow to regional power if this passes.  I URGE all citizens to vote "NAY"!
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2008, 11:04:12 pm »
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This would be a huge blow to regional power if this passes.  I URGE all citizens to vote "NAY"!

     You should join the Regional Protection Party. We're devoted to fighting off attempts by the Federal Government to neuter the regions.
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2008, 08:57:28 am »
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This would be a huge blow to regional power if this passes.  I URGE all citizens to vote "NAY"!

     You should join the Regional Protection Party. We're devoted to fighting off attempts by the Federal Government to neuter the regions.
Actually, they're attempts to get around putting the poor neutered old bastards out of their misery. Grin
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I may conceivably reconsider.

Knowing me it's more likely than not.
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« Reply #17 on: August 13, 2008, 01:33:36 pm »
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     It's now at

3-1 in the Pacific
2-2 in the Midwest
7-1 in the Mideast
3-5 in the Southeast
8-0 in the Northeast

     A nationwide total of 23-9, yet it's on track to fail. Regions forever! Grin
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2008, 01:51:09 pm »
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Ugh.
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« Reply #19 on: August 13, 2008, 01:53:50 pm »
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     It's now at

3-1 in the Pacific
2-2 in the Midwest
7-1 in the Mideast
3-5 in the Southeast
8-0 in the Northeast

     A nationwide total of 23-9, yet it's on track to fail. Regions forever! Grin
hold on there... all the ayes need is one vote in the Midwest.
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« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2008, 01:55:15 pm »
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     It's now at

3-1 in the Pacific
2-2 in the Midwest
7-1 in the Mideast
3-5 in the Southeast
8-0 in the Northeast

     A nationwide total of 23-9, yet it's on track to fail. Regions forever! Grin
hold on there... all the ayes need is one vote in the Midwest.

     True. Another thing is that all of the margin is from the Mideast & Northeast. It's 15-1 there, while being 8-8 in the other three regions.
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2008, 01:56:14 pm »
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Just a note, Northeast regional law already allows for this under legislation passed when I was Governor.

http://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Northeastern_Voting_Regulations
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2008, 02:06:02 pm »
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Of course, it would be the Southeast that rejects this.  Because, of course, the Southeast was the reason I found it necessary to draft this amendment in the first place.
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2008, 02:13:20 pm »
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Of course, it would be the Southeast that rejects this.  Because, of course, the Southeast was the reason I found it necessary to draft this amendment in the first place.

     It's tied in the Midwest currently. Then again, the Midwest is such an underpopulated region, bizarre results out of there are not surprising in the least.
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« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2008, 02:15:49 pm »
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Why do I get the feeling Moderate moved to Colorado just for reasons like this Smiley
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