Who would win in a war of Russia v. The World?

[Associate Justice PiT]

I don't know who would 'win', but there would be an awful lot of losers.

We'd all lose.

     I wouldn't lose. I would go hide in Northern Canada. I figure no one would ever bother nuking there considering that it's basically unpopulated.

[Flying Dog]

I don't know who would 'win', but there would be an awful lot of losers.

We'd all lose.

[Bunwahaha [still dunno why, but well, so be it]]

Sure such a conflict would make lose a lot of people but if it is not avoided it is that a majority of peoples would have let it done.

This will probably never happen, and if it did, I am guess about a billion people would die and that Russia would be totally dismembered in the surrender. Also, China would be forced to cede Tibet, Xinjaing and Manchuria. Korea would be reunited as well. Perhaps the EU would expand to Moscow's ruins and become a united country.

That's exactly, in part, the result I would expect of such a conflict, except the last sentence. I think the possible future former Russian Federation would become a EU-like, and maybe the same thing for most of the current Chinese territory.

Well, as I often say: Maybe, maybe not, anyway for me these things are possibilities.

[12th Doctor]

No one.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I don't know who would 'win', but there would be an awful lot of losers.

We'd all lose.

[Josh/Devilman88]

The Cockroaches....

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China is "crap"? I wouldn't want to face that many people.

Number of bodies are pretty meaningless in 21st century warfare.

The Cockroaches....

Are you suggesting Mexico would remain neutral?

[??????????]

Why does everyone here automatically assume that Russia v West would be nuclear? Even at the Soviets height I think the probability of a nuclear conflict was minimal. In this day and age? Nah, very slight to minimal chance. The US would probably have to launch first for that to happen. Plus the Soviets aren't Islamic either, they're more like us in that they don't have a death wish to bring back a false god.

[dead0man]

RUSSIA

Explain.

NO

Because you can't, because it's impossible.  (even if it were possible I doubt you could)  But please, continue to reaffirm to us that biases make your choices for you and not the facts of the situation.  It makes it a lot easier on me.

[dead0man]

Why does everyone here automatically assume that Russia v West would be nuclear? Even at the Soviets height I think the probability of a nuclear conflict was minimal. In this day and age? Nah, very slight to minimal chance. The US would probably have to launch first for that to happen. Plus the Soviets aren't Islamic either, they're more like us in that they don't have a death wish to bring back a false god.

They are still under the impression that Russia and the US have the same amount of nukes at the ready that they had in 1973.  They still think MAD shapes our nuclear policy.  They are happy with their ignorance, facts be damned.

[Хahar 🤔]

RUSSIA

Explain.

NO

Because you can't, because it's impossible.  (even if it were possible I doubt you could)  But please, continue to reaffirm to us that biases make your choices for you and not the facts of the situation.  It makes it a lot easier on me.

The fact that I typed that in all-caps should have made it fairly obvious that I was being sarcastic.

[Dan the Roman]

Why does everyone here automatically assume that Russia v West would be nuclear? Even at the Soviets height I think the probability of a nuclear conflict was minimal. In this day and age? Nah, very slight to minimal chance. The US would probably have to launch first for that to happen. Plus the Soviets aren't Islamic either, they're more like us in that they don't have a death wish to bring back a false god.

They are still under the impression that Russia and the US have the same amount of nukes at the ready that they had in 1973.  They still think MAD shapes our nuclear policy.  They are happy with their ignorance, facts be damned.

According to wikipedia, we have around 5000 and the Russians have around 6600. More worrying though, a lot of them are submarine launched, which can not be shot down once in the air, and generally give under 30 minutes warning. That said a lot would depend on whether our submarine forces could take out the Russian submarines in the first few hours of a conflict. Remove them from the equation and the situation changes immensely.

[dead0man]

RUSSIA

Explain.

NO

Because you can't, because it's impossible.  (even if it were possible I doubt you could)  But please, continue to reaffirm to us that biases make your choices for you and not the facts of the situation.  It makes it a lot easier on me.

The fact that I typed that in all-caps should have made it fairly obvious that I was being sarcastic.

That's right...I keep forgetting caps means sarcasm on the internet.

[Хahar 🤔]

RUSSIA

Explain.

NO

Because you can't, because it's impossible.  (even if it were possible I doubt you could)  But please, continue to reaffirm to us that biases make your choices for you and not the facts of the situation.  It makes it a lot easier on me.

The fact that I typed that in all-caps should have made it fairly obvious that I was being sarcastic.

That's right...I keep forgetting caps means sarcasm on the internet.

As you should've by now noticed. No reason to roll your eyes.

[dead0man]

Sure buddy.

[GMantis]

The more interesting question is who would win in a war of USA vs The World - and it would be more appropriate to this forum as well.

[dead0man]

The World easy.  Best case (for the US), very few nukes get to us because we get to suprise attack the rest of the world thus shutting 95% of the worlds arsenal down.  We could then keep you at bay for awhile (2 months, tops), but eventually you'll sink all our carriers and shoot down enough of our aircraft that we'd have to sue for peace.  You certainly wouldn't want to live in any major city in the world though.  Because of the carnage the USAF laid down upon the rest of the world and then the US's eventual defeat, the world would have some serious long term issues to deal with.  The Northern Hemisphere would be 98% abandoned as most survivors would move south.  Maybe it would lead to a utopia in a few hundred years or maybe we'd all be dead from radiation within the decade.

Best case for the world would be a first strike on us.  We don't suspect those columns of French and German tanks playing games in Manitoba until they are on top of Minot AFB ND and the missile silos in the upper midwest and the rest are rapidly heading south to Offutt AFB NE (StratCom) and Whiteman AFB MO (B2s).  Also, having snuck in 2 million Chinese and Russians into Mexico (with another 2 million S.American Armies gearing up to follow) over the past few months they quickly invade Cali and Texas.  Quickly sealing off the west coast and heading north through Texas to meet the forces coming out of Canada in Kansas.  I'd go on, but I don't want to give any of you any ideas

(yes there are thousands of reasons why, thankfully, neither of those is possible.)

[ottermax]

Would China really want to side with Russia in a war? They might be smart and stay out of it, while selling weapons to both sides and therefore becoming the ultimate winner.

Here's an interesting question, where are all our weapons made?

[dead0man]

Mostly in the US.  All the really important stuff is at least.