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Rowan
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« on: August 14, 2008, 05:22:49 PM »

Obama collapsing in Minnesota and Colorado.

It's still not too late to nominate Hillary.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2008, 05:25:17 PM »

Obama collapsing in Minnesota and Colorado.

It's still not too late to nominate Hillary.

Shut up.

Play nice or don't play at all.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2008, 05:39:25 PM »

And people say Rasmusssen is lean republican.. don't believe these polls.

If Rasmussen is lean Republican than what is Qunnipiac who showed McCain +2?
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


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E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2008, 05:41:21 PM »

Alright,  you are saying Q and RAS are illegitimate pollsters. So which pollsters DO you believe then?
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2008, 06:50:15 PM »

Not much to see in this thread.  Just a bunch of liberals whining about statistic noise and hacks throwing away the poll because it doesn't confirm their biases.

Seriously though, where is an Ohio poll?  The one state that this election will probably hinge on, and it seems like there's been 2+ months without anything.  At least there's still Washington state to talk about.

McCain is up comfortably in OH. Don't worry.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2008, 06:55:29 PM »

Not much to see in this thread.  Just a bunch of liberals whining about statistic noise and hacks throwing away the poll because it doesn't confirm their biases.

Seriously though, where is an Ohio poll?  The one state that this election will probably hinge on, and it seems like there's been 2+ months without anything.  At least there's still Washington state to talk about.

McCain is up comfortably in OH. Don't worry.

And you're basing this on...

Rasmussen has McCain +10 and there are a lot of bible thumping, gun clinging bitter people in OH.
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Rowan
RowanBrandon
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,692


Political Matrix
E: 1.94, S: 4.70

« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2008, 05:58:58 AM »

Explanation by Tom Jensen from PPP:

"Three days ago we said Barack Obama was up four in Colorado. Today Rasmussen says John McCain is up a point. I don't know who's right but I can tell you one reason for the difference in our polls.

Rasmussen's numbers are based on 500 interviews conducted Wednesday night.

We did 500 interviews last Tuesday night in Colorado, and based on those McCain was up by a point as well. But we also called everyone in the sample who we didn't reach Tuesday night again Wednesday morning, Wednesday afternoon, Wednesday night, and Thursday afternoon. We got almost another 500 respondents and they went for Obama by a good amount, pushing him to a four point lead.

As far as I can tell Rasmussen just makes calls until they get 500 respondents. When we buy a sample we attempt to reach every number in it at least four times over a period of several days and go with whatever number of respondents we get based on that. And we almost always find that the further into conducting the poll we go, the better Obama does. I don't know if it's that his supporters are harder to get on the line or what, but we're finding that trend in nearly every state we poll.

I'm not saying that one way or another is better- Rasmussen has an outstanding track record- just pointing out that differences in the way we conduct our polls may help explain some of the differences in the numbers we produce. It's not as simple as just saying Rasmussen is Republican and PPP is Democratic."

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2008/08/ppp-rasmussen-and-colorado.html

Or is it that PPP goes and tries to find Obama votes so that his numbers appear better.
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