Competitive Districting

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Xahar told me that the main reason districts were abolished is because they produced uncompetitive races. As such, I decided to challenge myself by drawing the most competitive districts that I could. This is the result, along with my analysis:

     District one, red: 4 SDP, 5 JCP, 2 NLC, 1 RPP, 3 indies, 4 others. SDP v. JCP. Enough center-right indies to play kingmaker or give a serious challenge, even though it's unlikely they'll win.
     District two, blue: 4 JCP, 3 SDP, 4 NLC, 3 RPP, 1 indie, 2 others. JCP v. SDP v. NLC v. RPP. My best one, IMO. All four parties are near parity here.
     District three, green: 2 JCP, 1 SDP, 3 NLC, 4 RPP, 2 indies, 7 others. NLC v. RPP. Both parties are close to parity, with indies & other parties of various positions in the spectrum.
     District four, yellow: 7 NLC, 1 RPP, 1 SDP, 5 indies, 5 others. NLC V. RPP, lean NLC. NLC has a huge registration advantage, but right-wing indies & others help close the gap.
     District five, brown: 3 NLC, 2 SDP, 3 indies, 8 others. SDP v. NLC. Indies & others come in all stripes here, causing a race between the two major parties in this region to be somewhat unpredictable. Enough right-wingers to give a conservative challenger a shot.

     What does everybody think?

[Хahar 🤔]

Well, great job.

[dead0man]

Looks good to me.

[Associate Justice PiT]

      Oops, I forgot to mention that Puerto Rico is in district three. Sorry, Hashemite.

[Sensei]

sometimes new guys do ambitious things to laughable results, but not this time. Nice map.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

1. Gerrymandering is gerrymandering and gerrymander is totally unacceptable here. Or should be.
2. Regardless, partisan composition is no guarantee of anything here. Your map, while clever in places, wouldn't work as planned.

[Associate Justice PiT]

sometimes new guys do ambitious things to laughable results, but not this time. Nice map.

     Thank you.

 

1. Gerrymandering is gerrymandering and gerrymander is totally unacceptable here. Or should be.
2. Regardless, partisan composition is no guarantee of anything here. Your map, while clever in places, wouldn't work as planned.

   

     1. I didn't mean to imply that gerrymandering should be encouraged. The goal of this map is to show that electoral districts have potential to be competitive.

     2. Indeed it is no guarantee of anything, since the people running count for as much & perhaps more than the parties involved. A popular incumbent Senator can easily hold any district, which makes sense. No one would want to run in a district if partisanship meant that no matter how good a Senator you were, you had about a 50/50 shot at surviving re-election.

[Kaine for Senate '18]

D4 looks interesting.  I'd like to bring the Districts back; see if it works.

[Associate Justice PiT]

D4 looks interesting.  I'd like to bring the Districts back; see if it works.

     I would like a way to test this map in a controlled environment. Maybe it could be re-districted only once a year to help preserve my sanity.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

I'd like to bring the Districts back; see if it works.

Not going to happen Mr. Lieutenant Governor, proportional representation is here to stay. Unless you go back in a time machine, with Doc Brown thus going back into the future, run for the Senate and hope Colin Wixted isn't elected President. Sadly you don't have the looks of Michael J. Fox to play Marty McFly so that rules you out of contention to do such a thing.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I don't want this, I'm beginning to like this PR thing if it gets me a senate seat.

Get back to me in a week and maybe I'll feel differently

[Kaine for Senate '18]

I'd like to bring the Districts back; see if it works.

Not going to happen Mr. Lieutenant Governor, proportional representation is here to stay. Unless you go back in a time machine, with Doc Brown thus going back into the future, run for the Senate and hope Colin Wixted isn't elected President. Sadly you don't have the looks of Michael J. Fox to play Marty McFly so that rules you out of contention to do such a thing.

How do you know if I look like Michael J. Fox?

[Associate Justice PiT]

I'd like to bring the Districts back; see if it works.

Not going to happen Mr. Lieutenant Governor, proportional representation is here to stay. Unless you go back in a time machine, with Doc Brown thus going back into the future, run for the Senate and hope Colin Wixted isn't elected President. Sadly you don't have the looks of Michael J. Fox to play Marty McFly so that rules you out of contention to do such a thing.

     Hey, if we get enough people to join Atlasia, we could re-introduce districts alongside PR & regions. I could go for a 15-man Senate if we could find the people to staff it.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

How do you know if I look like Michael J. Fox?

I know all and I see all. Just like now I'm watching some sexy woman getting undressed right now . Anywho, Ben I'm kind of like Big Brother figure in George Orwell's classic 1984 or L. Ron Hubbard. No big difference between the two of them, whatsoever.

    Hey, if we get enough people to join Atlasia, we could re-introduce districts alongside PR & regions. I could go for a 15-man Senate if we could find the people to staff it.

You have some interesting ideas PiT for a newbie to Atlasia. Atleast your a sensible newbie, unlike Garrison Porter, who once believe we were at war with Canada, believed there is such a nation as Franco and once said:

Global Climate Change-I believe that we need to eliminate global warming because it is a cause of pollution to our country. We need to lower fossil fuels and work with the enviroment that way. I can promise that you will find the global climate to have improved if we follow that action.

I believe you have a bright future in Atlasia young Sir....PiT that is .

[Associate Justice PiT]

How do you know if I look like Michael J. Fox?

I know all and I see all. Just like now I'm watching some sexy woman getting undressed right now . Anywho, Ben I'm kind of like Big Brother figure in George Orwell's classic 1984 or L. Ron Hubbard. No big difference between the two of them, whatsoever.

    Hey, if we get enough people to join Atlasia, we could re-introduce districts alongside PR & regions. I could go for a 15-man Senate if we could find the people to staff it.

You have some interesting ideas PiT for a newbie to Atlasia. Atleast your a sensible newbie, unlike Garrison Porter, who once believe we were at war with Canada, believed there is such a nation as Franco and once said:

Global Climate Change-I believe that we need to eliminate global warming because it is a cause of pollution to our country. We need to lower fossil fuels and work with the enviroment that way. I can promise that you will find the global climate to have improved if we follow that action.

I believe you have a bright future in Atlasia young Sir....PiT that is .

     Thank you for the compliment. Anyway, I found about gporter's antics browsing the Atlasia wiki. The quote about global warming is news to me though.

[ilikeverin]

A n00b district map that's ILV-approved?  Impossible!

[Hash]

Nice. But doesn't mean people would bother running, though. Or that voters wouldn't cross party lines, or have a Senator with a large personal/crossparty support.

[Colin]

I ran in a district that looked very much like the yellow one for a long time while I was in the Senate. I believe I won every election with a complete lack of opposition. If I was in favour of keeping my seat unto the ends of Atlasia, I'd support this, but I do kind of like some competition for things.

Just because you have a party parity doesn't make things competitive. Most of those people could be pretty inactive, or not want to run for office. This would be a complete step backwards.

Also if we get rid of PR that will just cause be to get myself re-elected to the Presidency so I can force through PR again and even more radical reforms that would make DWTL and PiT sh**t their pants in fear.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I ran in a district that looked very much like the yellow one for a long time while I was in the Senate. I believe I won every election with a complete lack of opposition. If I was in favour of keeping my seat unto the ends of Atlasia, I'd support this, but I do kind of like some competition for things.

Just because you have a party parity doesn't make things competitive. Most of those people could be pretty inactive, or not want to run for office. This would be a complete step backwards.

Also if we get rid of PR that will just cause be to get myself re-elected to the Presidency so I can force through PR again and even more radical reforms that would make DWTL and PiT sh**t their pants in fear.

     I mentioned that district four would probably be less competitive than the other ones. That aside, inactivity is a difficult thing to account for, as is electoral ambition. Nevertheless, a party without a strong GOTV program doesn't deserve to win elections anyway.

     Also, I never suggested that we get rid of PR. It has its place in the Senate considering that we don't have a House of Representatives. My goal would be a way to re-introduce districts while keeping Regions & PR. Perhaps if we had three regions, three districts, & four at-large seats, that would work.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

1. Gerrymandering is gerrymandering and gerrymander is totally unacceptable here. Or should be.
2. Regardless, partisan composition is no guarantee of anything here. Your map, while clever in places, wouldn't work as planned.

Gerrymandering implies wacky districts.  These aren't wacky - they're possible districts that the Governors could've come up with.

[Hash]

1. Gerrymandering is gerrymandering and gerrymander is totally unacceptable here. Or should be.
2. Regardless, partisan composition is no guarantee of anything here. Your map, while clever in places, wouldn't work as planned.

Gerrymandering implies wacky districts.  These aren't wacky - they're possible districts that the Governors could've come up with.

Not necessarily.

Vendée districts don't look wacky.

[DownWithTheLeft]

No districts, I have come to love this PR for these elections

However, regional senate seats must remain in tact

[ilikeverin]

No districts, I have come to love this PR for these elections

However, regional senate seats must remain in tact

I agree with both these comments.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

No districts, I have come to love this PR for these elections

However, regional senate seats must remain in tact

Districts were a regions' rights issue.  Taking that power away from the regions was a TERRIBLE mistake.