Fairness to the Voter Amendment II (At Final Vote)

[Colin]

Fairness to the Voter Amendment II

Section 1:
1. To change Article V, Section 2, Part IV of the constitution from reading ...tenth day before the election to ... fifth day before the election


Sponsor: DWTL

[Хahar 🤔]

The problem I see is that this could mean that somebody could register and then immediately vote absentee.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

So, what's the need for this?

[CultureKing]

So, what's the need for this?

[DownWithTheLeft]

The idea is that people sign up around election time because the activity gets exciting, but they can't vote because they got signed up 9 days or something like that before the election.  I feel that people should be able to sign up while the absentee booth has opened, but before the general election campaign begins.  I believe in a lot of states you can register to vote after early voting begins.

Its not a new idea, I just had it combined with the other Fairness to the Voter Amendment that allowed for vote editing, and some senators suggested it be split into two different issues.

[Torie]

The problem I see is that this could mean that somebody could register and then immediately vote absentee.

Why is that a problem?

[DownWithTheLeft]

I saw a complaint that someone could just get people to sign up, vote and they would go away.  I don't see why that isn't an issue now, all you need as someone to sign up 11 days before the election, come back and vote in 4 days and then be gone.  This bill really only increases activity chances.  For example, there are a few voters that cannot vote in this election because they registered too late.

[Bacon King]

Not really necessary IMO.

[minionofmidas]

I'd be fine with 7 days, making the deadline the same as for getting on the ballot. No need to have two different deadlines so close to each other. But no later.

[DownWithTheLeft]

I'd be fine with 7 days, making the deadline the same as for getting on the ballot. No need to have two different deadlines so close to each other. But no later.

Introduce an amendment if you like, that would be a fine compromise

[minionofmidas]

Tomorrow.
Actually, there are two more bills on which I will probably want to introduce amendments tomorrow... I'll go "debate" them now.

[minionofmidas]

Fairness to the Voter Amendment II

Section 1. In order to vote or be a candidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter seven days before the earliest possible commencement of the election. If a voter changes their state of registration between that time and the election, the state from which they were originally registered shall be the state from which their vote is cast.

Section 2. The Tenth Amendment is hereby repealed.


Besides the 5 to 7 day amendation, I changed the wording to mirror CESRA. Tenth Amendment needed to go into this thingy anyhow. Although that bit (and the additional language about state changes, adopted from the tenth Amendment but adapted to 7 rather than 10 days) is meaningless for federal affairs if Proportional Representation for Class A seats passes. (Remains relevant for regional elections though I suppose.)

[Torie]

It looks good to me, and appears to be a sensible approach.

[DownWithTheLeft]

It looks good to me, and appears to be a sensible approach.

I agree completely

I'm glad Lewis cleared up an issue I did not consider that you can register after the candidate delcartion deadline so now that it is the same it is much better.

Since I guess I technically still am the sponsor, I accept as friendly if that is the proper protocol

[Colin]

Seeing as there has been no debate in over 24 hours I am now opening the vote on this amendment.

Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[minionofmidas]

Aye

[CultureKing]

nay

[Colin]

Nay

[Torie]

Aye

[DownWithTheLeft]

Aye

[Bacon King]

aye

[minionofmidas]

Seeing as there has been no debate in over 24 hours I am now opening the vote on this amendment.

Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

It seems that this was the vote on the amendment to the Amendment, rather than a vote on final passage.

If so, it actually failed a long time ago, by a vote of 2-2.

Aye 2 (Lewis, Torie)
Nay 2 (Culture King, Colin)
abstain (didn't vote) 6 (everybody else)


Meh. I'll just introduce it again.

"Fairness to the Voter Amendment II

Section 1. In order to vote or be a candidate in an election, a person must have been a registered voter seven days before the earliest possible commencement of the election. If a voter changes their state of registration between that time and the election, the state from which they were originally registered shall be the state from which their vote is cast.

Section 2. The Tenth Amendment is hereby repealed."


Dwdl, whether or not you had the right to accept the amendment as friendly while not a Senator, or who had that right if you didn't, seems to be sort of murky. You certainly have that right now, though.

EDIT: Seems that anybody could have taken over sponsorship when you left the Senate, and thus aquired these rights. Nobody did, though.

[minionofmidas]

Seeing as there has been no debate in over 24 hours, I'm opening the vote on the amendment.

The vote is on the amendment. Please vote aye, nay or abstain.


Aye

[DownWithTheLeft]

Aye

I guess its too late to accept as friendly, correct?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Aye