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« on: August 19, 2008, 07:52:40 pm »
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I don't want to post a topic every time I have a cool story.  So I'm going to post them here and I encourage others to as well.

Obama Uses "He" Pronoun When Discussing His VP
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/08/obama-uses-he-p.html
"Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, is almost always diligent about saying "he or she" when discussing his potential running mate.

But at a lively town hall meeting in the Tarheel State Tuesday evening, the senator -- who is expected to announce his vice presidential pick at the end of this week -- used a decidedly male pronoun.

Asked what his plan is to utilize his vice president as President Bush utilized his, Obama said, "Let me tell you first what I won’t do. I won’t hand over my energy policy to my vice president, without knowing necessarily what he’s doing."


Virginian officialls called in to discuss line of succession
http://www.palmettoscoop.com/2008/08/19/insider-virginia-gov-held-line-of-succession-meeting/

A source inside the beltway informed me that high ranking officials throughout Virginia were recently summoned to the governor's office for an emergency meeting which reportedly involved discussions on the line of succession if and when Kaine steps down to become Obama's running mate.

The officials were mandated to leave an out-of-state conference and return to the state capitol in Richmond immediately.

Due to the confidential nature of the meeting, details are scarce but the source said that either Obama will choose Kaine, or Kaine was given the impression that he would be chosen.


Biden on Obama's VP Pick: 'I'm Not The Guy'
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/08/biden-on-obamas.html

As Delaware Sen. Joe Biden was leaving his house in Wilmington this afternoon, he slowed down and said to the gathered news reporters outside his home: "Hey guys, I'm not the guy. See ya."

UPDATE:

Biden returned from his outing to dial back his "its not me" statement from earlier.

He rolled down his passenger side window and said to reporters don't you have anything better to do?

The "It's not me" from earlier is now "I have not spoken with anyone" repeated several times to several different questions.

Have you spoken to the Obama campaign?

"I have not spoken to anyone."

So you're not ruling out you could be picked?

"I have not spoken to anyone."

"You guys know as well as I do,' he said as he drove down his driveway with admonitions that your staker outers should be careful on the treacherous road outside his house.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 07:57:19 pm »
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Ugh no no no Kaine...anyone but Kaine.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 08:01:04 pm »
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Ugh no no no Kaine...anyone but Kaine.

Probably won't be.  This story is a bit old but relevant:

Kaine earn's VP Silver Medal
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/08/13/AR2008081304137.html?hpid=topnews

A source close to Kaine said this past Tuesday night -- before yesterday morning's announcement about Warner -- that the governor believed he would "get the silver medal" in the vice presidential sweepstakes. Obama's decision to make security the theme on the night his running mate speaks is regarded by party observers as a subtle hint that Kaine and other governors without foreign policy credentials might be less likely choices.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 09:00:15 pm »
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Significant because one of the themes for the VP's selection day is bipartisanship.

Cross Hagel off the long-shot list and onto the cabinet list
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/08/12/veep-stakes-cross-hagel-off-the-obama-list/

A spokesman for Sen. Chuck Hagel of Nebraska offered one of the more Shermanesque statements today responding to the ongoing chatter of whether there’s a place for Hagel on Barack Obama’s vice presidential short-list.

The talk sparked again after former Iowa Republican Rep. Jim Leach, in a conference call discussing his support for Obama, said he viewed Hagel as a top choice to be the Democrat’s running mate.

Hagel, who is retiring from the Senate, traveled with Obama on his recent trip to Iraq, and he has not endorsed either Obama or Republican colleague John McCain in the race. Jordan Stark, Hagel’s spokesman, made it clear that it’s going to stay that way.

“Senator Hagel has no intention in getting involved in any of the campaigns, and is not planning to endorse either candidate,” Stark said in a statement. “He will be in Central and South America during both conventions on official travel. Senator Hagel is focused on his job serving the people of Nebraska as a United States Senator.”

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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 09:03:52 pm »
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Barry once again reiterates the qualities he is looking for in a running mate at a townhall rally in North Carolina, which sounds to me that he has already made his decision.

His running mate will "shares his passion", has "integrity", who is in politics "for the right reasons".

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Reading between the lines, I would say Tim Kaine.   Hilarious.
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Not Kaine. Please.
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Barry once again reiterates the qualities he is looking for in a running mate at a townhall rally in North Carolina, which sounds to me that he has already made his decision.

His running mate will "shares his passion", has "integrity", who is in politics "for the right reasons".

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Reading between the lines, I would say Tim Kaine.   Hilarious.


There's nobody he could pick that you wouldn't find "hilarious", so who cares?
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 09:11:25 pm »
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Not Kaine. Please.

It'd be a better choice than Bayh, that's for sure.
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Another theory of mine as to why Obama is waiting later in the week in unveiling his running mate:  if it's indeed Kaine, Obama does not want the potential embarrasment of his running mate selection not giving him a significant bump in the tracking polls, since Kaine is such an unknown and looks funny.

Kaine = epic fail.

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Another theory of mine as to why Obama is waiting later in the week in unveiling his running mate:  if it's indeed Kaine, Obama does not want the potential embarrasment of his running mate selection not giving him a significant bump in the tracking polls, since Kaine is such an unknown and looks funny.

Kaine = epic fail.

And why would Obama intentionally pick someone he feels is an embarrassment again?

Your idea works just as well for Bayh.  It makes sense that Obama's campaign doesn't want to give the media time to cover the far left's outrage over Bayh before his convention speech.
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Barry once again reiterates the qualities he is looking for in a running mate at a townhall rally in North Carolina, which sounds to me that he has already made his decision.

His running mate will "shares his passion", has "integrity", who is in politics "for the right reasons".

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Reading between the lines, I would say Tim Kaine.   Hilarious.


He has to say that...what's he going to say? "My running mate will be an A-hole who doesn't like America and is stupid."? Come on.
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Not true.  I would find someone like Bill Nelson somewhat of a pleasant surprise, and I would be the first to praise Obama in his choice, if for no other reason that it would be unexpected and the campaign should be commended for holding a thing this big in total secrecy.
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Kaine would be the best choice. He can help with electoral votes unlike the other two leading candidates. He's nearly perfect on the issues and he didn't vote to lead the country into one of the greatest foreign policy disasters ever. He's always a great campaigner, he did a terrific job on Meet The Press Sunday even Chris Cillizza of the Washington Post gave him a gold medal for his performance. The visual image of Obama and Kaine together is more appealing than the other possible tickets.
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« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2008, 09:43:38 pm »
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Bayh-haters, there is yet another reason to rejoice.

His wife's corporate ties raises conflict-of-interest issues that may be harming Bayh's chances in the 11th hour of the Messiah's Choosing.   The last thing Obama needs is a running mate with Ferraro spouse issues.

http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/news/local/27150089.html

And for the record: I would totally do Susan Bayh.
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CBS News now confirming the Obama campaign plans to announce their decision to supporters via email and text on Friday afternoon?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/08/19/politics/horserace/entry4364243.shtml

Jesus.  What sort of horrendous choice does Obama have in store for us that he has to announce it on the day traditionally reserved for announcing bad news?   LOL
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AFAIK, CBS is still the lone source to report as fact that the timing of the announcement will definitely be Friday afternoon, and they're not even doing it in a regular news story.  It's in a blog post on the "Horserace" blog.  So I remain a little skeptical until other outlets report it too.  Marc Ambinder (which the CBS blog post references) had earlier suggested it might be Friday, but is now walking that back, saying maybe Thursday:

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/08/obama_what_we_know_and_dont_kn.php

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(A) Obama's going to have to make the pick by Saturday afternoon.  I originally reported that it'd be the first appearance with his ticket-mate. Then my sources got skittish and weren't so sure. The Obama campaign wisely let me stew in my own confusion and would not confirm to other reporters what I had reported. I still think that's it right, but I don't know for sure.

(B) I don't think Obama's going to announce the pick on Friday. Why? Because it's Friday. Why would you announce a pick on Friday?

(C) The best day to announce the pick would be Thursday. That'd let the nominee have a day to prepare for Saturday's speech. BTW: Are people going to watch the Olympics on Saturday? Or Obama's kick-off.

(D) Obama is scheduled to be in Virginia on Thursday.

(E) Announcing has several parts to it:

     I. Obama calls his pick. 

    II. Obama calls the folks he didn't pick.

    III. Someone tells Joe Rospars who the pick is, and Rospars sends out text and e-mails.

   IV. The pick is "announced."

(F) The aftermath has several parts, too.

   Hit one: the media confirms the pick and broadcasts it.

   Hit two: the pick makes a short statement outside his or her home.

   Hit three: Obama makes a brief statement about the pick.

   Hit four: Obama and the pick make their first appearance together.
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Michael Moore wants Carolina Kennedy to select.... herself!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/-Caroline-Pull-a-Cheney--by-from-Michael-Moore-080819-372.html

Here's the juicy parts:

As for Governor Kaine of Virginia, his big problem is, well, Obama's big problem -- who is he? The toughest thing Barack has had to overcome -- and it will continue to be his biggest obstacle -- is that too many of the voters simply don't know him well enough to vote for him. The fact that Obama is new to the scene is both one of his most attractive qualities AND his biggest drawback. Too many Americans, who on the surface seem to like Barack Obama, just don't feel comfortable voting for someone who hasn't been on the national scene very long. It's a comfort level thing, and it may be just what keeps Obama from winning in November ("I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know").

What Obama needs is a vice presidential candidate who is NOT a professional politician, but someone who is well-known and beloved by people across the political spectrum; someone who, like Obama, spoke out against the war; someone who has a good and generous heart, who will be cheered by the rest of the world; someone whom we've known and loved and admired all our lives and who has dedicated her life to public service and to the greater good for all.

That person, Caroline, is you.


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Michael Moore wants Carolina Kennedy to select.... herself!
http://www.opednews.com/articles/-Caroline-Pull-a-Cheney--by-from-Michael-Moore-080819-372.html

Here's the juicy parts:

As for Governor Kaine of Virginia, his big problem is, well, Obama's big problem -- who is he? The toughest thing Barack has had to overcome -- and it will continue to be his biggest obstacle -- is that too many of the voters simply don't know him well enough to vote for him. The fact that Obama is new to the scene is both one of his most attractive qualities AND his biggest drawback. Too many Americans, who on the surface seem to like Barack Obama, just don't feel comfortable voting for someone who hasn't been on the national scene very long. It's a comfort level thing, and it may be just what keeps Obama from winning in November ("I'd rather vote for the devil I know than the devil I don't know").

What Obama needs is a vice presidential candidate who is NOT a professional politician, but someone who is well-known and beloved by people across the political spectrum; someone who, like Obama, spoke out against the war; someone who has a good and generous heart, who will be cheered by the rest of the world; someone whom we've known and loved and admired all our lives and who has dedicated her life to public service and to the greater good for all.

That person, Caroline, is you.


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not long ago, i was on another message board and a democrat also suggested the caroline kennedy for vp idea.
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They just love the sound of Obama/Kennedy and they know that there would be very little backlash among women.

But seriously.  The VP search team is the biggest amount of managerial experience she's had in her entire life by an order of magnitude.  I mean, she's worked in an art museum and as a lawyer and that's it.
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I imagine that Susan Bayh's corporate connections would've come up during vetting. Would Bayh have ended up being a finalist if those connections would cause any problems?
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Howard Fineman of Newsweek writes this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26288748/

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I've recently spoken with two of the finalists for the role of Barack Obama's running-mate, and to two other sources who are close to the process.

My bottom line is this: Barring a big surprise or last-minute change of heart, the choice is likely to be Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee.
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"If I had to bet my life on it, I'd bet it is Joe," said one of the other contenders.

Said another, "Barack is moving toward a seasoned Beltway type, and that probably means Biden."

And a source personally close to Obama simply said "Biden makes the most sense."

One of the contenders also revealed a tidbit about timing. That person says Obama's camp wants to know how to get in touch on Thursday afternoon.
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Why not Jack Reed instead of Biden?

Oh well, as long as it isn't Bayh.
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Why not Jack Reed instead of Biden?

Reed has already indicated that he doesn't want the job, and would turn it down if offered.
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Note on Morden's post, the strategist did not say that he would bet his life on Biden, only that if you put a gun to his head he would say Biden.  That's a pretty weak prognosis haha.

Reed wouldn't submit to being vetted.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-clemons/why-radio-silence-can-be_b_119933.html

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Reed, who Obama likes a great deal, would not allow himself to be vetted. I don't believe Chris Dodd was high on the list.
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I think Evan Bayh will be Obama's VP.
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