PA: Rasmussen: Another Kerry state under fire

[Keystone Phil]

Solid Obama

[Keystone Phil]

Solid Obama

not if McCain follows Rush Limbaugh's advice and takes Rick Santorum as his running mate. THat would swing it!

And, as usual, your ignorance shows. I've never argued that Santorum would really help among undecided voters especially in PA. I do enjoy your little love fest with me today though.

[Keystone Phil]

I was just suggesting myself that Santorum might overcome the "solid Obama" rating.

In a mocking manner.

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Mocking everyone? No, just the ones that see this as an almost safe Obama state.

[Keystone Phil]

Good to see that PA is staying democrat even when Obama is admittedly losing his lead nationwide. CO,OH,NV and VA will decide this thing.

My friends, this Obama lead is about the same as his lead nationally.

[Keystone Phil]

Good to see that PA is staying democrat even when Obama is admittedly losing his lead nationwide. CO,OH,NV and VA will decide this thing.

My friends, this Obama lead is about the same as his lead nationally.

No, his lead is either one or none, here it is 3 and he has had a better lead here than nationally very consistently.

Oh wow! A two point difference. Yep, solid Obama state.

Thus in a 50-50 race PA will vote democrat, even if it is by a few points.

It doesn't always work out that way but whatever.

[Keystone Phil]

More solid than you make it out to be. You act like it is a total tossup, that is for states like Nevada, Colorado and Ohio not Pennsylvania.

Hahaha...

Oh, you silly, silly child. You're right. It won't be a total toss up like it has been for plenty of elections.

[Keystone Phil]

Phil:  "[Pennsylvania has been] a total tossup ... for plenty of elections"

actual results in PA:

2004:  Kerry by 2.5% (Bush won by a similar margin)
2000:  Gore by 4.2% (Gore won popular vote by less than 1%)
1996:  Clinton by 9.2% (Clinton won by 8.5%)
1992: Clinton by 9.0% (Clinton won by 5.6%)
1988:  Bush by 2.3% (Bush won by 7.6%)
1984:  Reagan by 7.3% (Reagan won by 18.2%)
1980:  Reagan by 7.1% (Reagan won by 9.7%)
1976:  Carter by 2.7% (Carter won by 2.1%)

In each of the last 8 elections PA has been more Democratic than the rest of the country.  The closest to the national average were 1976 and 1996, both Dem victories, and 1976 seemed to be a completely different world than today.  1996 may show where the peak for Dems is in PA at least at that time, regardles of national trends.

Sure, PA's not generally a safe dem state but to call it a pure tossup over plenty of elections seems a tad off as well.  It's a definite Dem tilting state, that could change to a tossup but there's little evidence to suggest it has.

And how does that mean that it wasn't considered a toss up for most of the fall before the election?