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« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2008, 01:57:42 am »
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Hey, it's about as much in play as New Jersey, which is also "lean"
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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2008, 04:03:40 am »
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Quote from: Iosif on September 03, 2008, 05:44:53 pm
Nobody has the balls to call it the way it is. Everybody's playing it safe. The only pure tossups in this election are Ohio, Virginia and Colorado. The rest are all leans/safe.

I would have to agree with you on that point. It seems as if following 2000 the big networks are being very cagey (in case they get accused of allowing one candidate to build up a head of steam). My personal feelings (which I won't commit to a projection until September 15th onwards) are:



Obama 264
McCain 229
Ind 3
Tossup 42

(The reason for Alaska going Independent is that the Alaskan Independence Party may say "Look, so we may have a VP nominee, but will that really get Alaska noticed? Vote AIP and Alaska will really get noticed!")
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« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2008, 07:04:03 am »
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Quote from: Harry Hayfield on September 04, 2008, 04:03:40 am
(The reason for Alaska going Independent is that the Alaskan Independence Party may say "Look, so we may have a VP nominee, but will that really get Alaska noticed? Vote AIP and Alaska will really get noticed!")

LOL

The AIP isn't even running a Presidential candidate.
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« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2008, 10:15:02 pm »
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Quote from: Harry Hayfield on September 04, 2008, 04:03:40 am
(The reason for Alaska going Independent is that the Alaskan Independence Party may say "Look, so we may have a VP nominee, but will that really get Alaska noticed? Vote AIP and Alaska will really get noticed!")

LOL

The AIP isn't even running a Presidential candidate.

     I figured it was meant to be sarcastic.
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2008, 05:21:24 pm »
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Broadcast: September 7th 2008
Channel: Fox News
Programme: Fox News Sunday
Map Source: Karl Rove and Company



Obama 260
McCain 194
Tossups 84

Now I don't usually comment on these maps, but...

North Dakota, a tossup? What are they thinking???

North Dakota 2004: Bush 63% Kerry 35% Others 2%
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« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2008, 07:20:45 pm »
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Look at the recent ND polls and you'll see their point.

That map is my map, actually. (Not saying they stole it. It's my prediction. Not like my copyright. You know).
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« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2008, 10:08:36 pm »
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Broadcast: September 7th 2008
Channel: Fox News
Programme: Fox News Sunday
Map Source: Karl Rove and Company



Obama 260
McCain 194
Tossups 84



Fox news posted this map?
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« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2008, 11:33:17 pm »
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Broadcast: September 7th 2008
Channel: Fox News
Programme: Fox News Sunday
Map Source: Karl Rove and Company



Obama 260
McCain 194
Tossups 84



Fox news posted this map?

News flash: Fox News isn't as bias as the left wants people to believe.
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« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2008, 05:11:34 am »
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Well, if you go absolutely strictly on the polling data, both Montana and North Dakota are tossups.

That's the exact same map I had in mind actually, except with Florida in the GOP column.
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« Reply #34 on: September 14, 2008, 05:05:36 pm »
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Broadcast: September 14th 2008
Channel: CNBC / MSNBC / NBC affliates
Programme: Meet the Press
Map Source: NBC Election Team



Obama 233
McCain 227
Tossups 78

(Lighter colours leaning, Darker colours bankers)
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2008, 01:21:58 am »
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Broadcast: September 15, 2008
Channel: FoxNews
Program: Your World with Brit Hume
Source: Karl Rove
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2008, 07:05:45 am »
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So Rove & Co. are giving up on NM and NH?
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2008, 12:24:44 pm »
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So Rove & Co. are giving up on NM and NH?

He's basing it off polling, not his wishes. Honestly, this blind hatred of Fox is pathetic. That map is very reasonable, more so than what CNN or MSNBC puts out.
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« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2008, 12:28:09 pm »
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So Rove & Co. are giving up on NM and NH?

He's basing it off polling, not his wishes. Honestly, this blind hatred of Fox is pathetic. That map is very reasonable, more so than what CNN or MSNBC puts out.

About as much as blind hatred of Daily Kos is. Tongue
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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2008, 12:30:54 pm »
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Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 16, 2008, 07:05:45 am
So Rove & Co. are giving up on NM and NH?

He's basing it off polling, not his wishes. Honestly, this blind hatred of Fox is pathetic. That map is very reasonable, more so than what CNN or MSNBC puts out.

About as much as blind hatred of Daily Kos is. Tongue



Comparing the Daily Kos to Fox News is also insane.
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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2008, 07:56:00 pm »
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Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 16, 2008, 07:05:45 am
So Rove & Co. are giving up on NM and NH?

He's basing it off polling, not his wishes. Honestly, this blind hatred of Fox is pathetic. That map is very reasonable, more so than what CNN or MSNBC puts out.

Yeah. One's the mouthpiece of an extreme fringe in American politics and the other's an internet blog.

About as much as blind hatred of Daily Kos is. Tongue



Comparing the Daily Kos to Fox News is also insane.
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« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2008, 04:20:46 am »
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Broadcast: September 16, 2008
Channel: FoxNews
Program: The O'Reilly Factor
Source: Real Clear Politics



Obama 207
McCain 227
Tossups 104
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« Reply #42 on: September 24, 2008, 06:45:28 am »
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Broadcast: September 24th 2008
Channel: Fox News
Programme: Fox and Friends
Map Source: RealClearPolitics.com



Obama 219
McCain 189
Tossups 130

I am intrigued as to why IN is being classed as a tossup. The last time it went Dem was in the 1964 Johnson landslide. They're not surely suggesting that IN is going to vote Dem are they?
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« Reply #43 on: October 03, 2008, 02:41:56 pm »
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Map Source: LeMonde.fr



Obama 280
McCain 163
Tossup 95
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« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2008, 03:42:24 pm »
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« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2008, 03:55:50 pm »
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« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2008, 04:31:58 pm »
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Show: Meet the Press
Broadcast: October 5th 2008
Network / Channel : NBC
Source: Chuck Todd, NBC Politics

let’s go to our surface. Here’s where we were in 2004, Obama being—representing the Kerry states here in blue, John McCain representing the Bush states in 2004 in red. Two eighty-six, 252; John Kerry came up 18 electoral votes short, or one Ohio. And here’s where we were last week, just to show you where the battleground was.



McCain 174
Obama 212
Tossups 152

And I want you to keep an eye as I change things to these states up here in the northern tier of the country, the industrial Midwest.



McCain 174
Obama 264
Tossups 100

And everything has moved, at least with the Kerry states, have moved out of toss-up and into the Obama column. Throw in the fact that he is up in Iowa and up in New Mexico, and right now, if the election were held today, we would say that Obama is up five or more points right now in enough states, 264 electoral votes. John McCain under 200, under 175. And as you see here, all, all of these states are Bush ‘04 states—Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Ohio and Indiana, Colorado and Nevada.
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« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2008, 06:00:34 pm »
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Map Source: LeMonde.fr



Obama 280
McCain 163
Tossup 95



Wow. That's probably the best map in this entire thread. And it's from France. US media fails.
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« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2008, 06:06:36 pm »
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From the nightly news on France2.
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« Reply #49 on: October 06, 2008, 04:52:51 am »
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From the nightly news on France2.





Thanks for that.. I get Journal de France 2 every evening as well on TV5 Monde. I've set up a series link on my TIVO.
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