Political Party Definition Amendment (Debate Open)

[Colin]

Political Party Definition Amendment

Article V, Section 1, Clause 8 (Political Party definition) of the Constitution of Atlasia is hereby repealed.


Sponsor: Colin Wixted

This is being placed into the sixth slot which is reserved for forum affairs and emergency legislation. Any Senator has 72 hours to challenge this action in a public post.

[Colin]

Friendly Amendment

The text of this bill shall now read:

Article V, Section 1, Clause 8 is hereby amended to read:

The Senate shall have power to categorise and regulate political parties and to assign benefits to parties as it sees fit.


Senators have 24 hours to challenge the accept of this amendment as friendly.

[Colin]

I am against this bill.

Well first off why?

Secondly, as clarification, are you objecting to the amendment being introduced as friendly or to the general idea of what is proposed or the amendment that was just introduced?

[Colin]

I'm objecting.

Alright. Then there is a mandatory 72 hour debate period on this amendment before voting will begin.

[Colin]

OK, what is this about? 

Basically making it so that the Senate will have the power to enact legislation to catagorize and regulate political parties. Something akin to what BrandonH proposed a while back or some of the recent political party definition bills and amendments. This would just empower the Senate to devise both a catagorization and a regulation for political parties replacing the current clause which states that political parties with 5 members constitute major parties and they can be given benefits through legislation. It makes the political party definition much easier to control and change.

The original proposed amendment would have gotten rid of any mentioning of political parties in the constitution. The amendment to the proposed amendment would basically allow the Senate to enact legislation, if it so chooses, to both catagorize and regulate political parties, what qualifies as major or disorganized political parties, what does that mean, do parties need platforms to be officially recognized, etc.

[Colin]

We will now vote on the amendment to the proposed amendment.

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Please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.

[Colin]

Aye

[Colin]

On a side note I need someone to convince me that this won't give the parties too much power. What happens if a party gets a majority in the senate and uses this legislation to discriminate against the other rival parties?

Atlasian parties aren't coherent enough to do that.

Also it's entirely possible to do that right now too. By giving your party, which has over 5 members, benefits and support. The problem is this would never happen in Atlasia, parties are too weak, people would get pissed and leave the game, rebellions/revolts, and the like. Just like any game the players can always walk away if someone tries to cheat, that's really not possible in a normal nation.