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Snowguy716
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:23:53 pm »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on September 03, 2008, 10:21:41 pm
Quote from: Teh O.G. on September 03, 2008, 10:20:23 pm
So, outside of the hacks, we can say that this speech was good, but not great. Like the Olive Garden. Not a great place "to be seen", but the wine and the simple dishes really hit the spot.
Except when you ask the people (Italians) that matter, the Olive Garden is trash (aside from their salad).
So you're saying that Palin is trash except for her salad? Phil... I never would've thought...
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September 03, 2008, 10:24:03 pm »
I agree. Their salad is delicious, but their pasta was mediocre the only time I went there. The same thing is true with Greek places. My family refuses to go eat at them.
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I call that getting swindled and pimped
Keystone Phil
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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Reply #27 on:
September 03, 2008, 10:24:40 pm »
Quote from: Teh O.G. on September 03, 2008, 10:23:14 pm
Quote from: Keystone Phil on September 03, 2008, 10:21:41 pm
Quote from: Teh O.G. on September 03, 2008, 10:20:23 pm
So, outside of the hacks, we can say that this speech was good, but not great. Like the Olive Garden. Not a great place "to be seen", but the wine and the simple dishes really hit the spot.
Except when you ask the people (Italians) that matter, the Olive Garden is trash (aside from their salad).
Hey. Don't be elitist...and yes. Those salads are good. Olive garden is good for someone who lives in Laramie and must travel 66 miles to get to one.
I'm not an elitist; I'm just Italian.
I love how this will turn into a discussion about the Olive Garden.
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ucscgaldamez
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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Reply #28 on:
September 03, 2008, 10:24:49 pm »
Somehow I expected better
B- content/ C for delivery.
I think Rudy did the best job, although I disagree with him on almost everything he said.
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Sam Spade
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September 03, 2008, 10:25:06 pm »
B+ content
A delivery
So, overall, A-
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Snowguy716
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:25:37 pm »
Well us real Americans from Everycity, USA eat Spam and believe that cream of mushroom soup adds an element of magic to any dish.
So take your elitist "oooh.. I'm Italian... ooh.. I'm Greek" and fight over minute religious differences or something.
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:26:05 pm »
Can someone post a link if available? I don't have tv
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:26:32 pm »
One of the best speeches I've seen.
Absolutely amazing.
She hit policy issues without boring everyone to death.
She made the right slams. She is going to be a great attack dog.
Great speech.
Easily qualifies for A+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Biden watch out.
This is the first time I have said this or believed this, but I have to say that McCain made the right pick.
The liberal press and the Washington elite can take a flying leap at the moon.
A new political star is on the rise in America, and her name is Sarah Palin.
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:26:46 pm »
A, It was great.
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Beet
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:26:49 pm »
Quote from: Storebought on September 03, 2008, 10:26:05 pm
Can someone post a link if available? I don't have tv
You could have gotten it live on CNN's website. There may still be clips there and it may be on C-Span's website later.
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StatesRights
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September 03, 2008, 10:27:30 pm »
Great speech. Really connected with small town folks like my family. She's down to earth and definitely doesn't come over as a career politician. If the people here don't see what's in the making they are seriously delusional.
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September 03, 2008, 10:27:38 pm »
Quote from: Governor Duke, Dirty South on September 03, 2008, 10:24:03 pm
I agree. Their salad is delicious, but their pasta was mediocre the only time I went there. The same thing is true with Greek places. My family refuses to go eat at them.
Go to Chicago young man, for the Greek places. There is one decent Greek place in LA, down in San Pedro.
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Colin
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September 03, 2008, 10:27:41 pm »
Overall B-. The introduction was too long and for a good amount of time at the beginning it just felt uneasy for some reason like she was talking to a local group, like a PTA or Veterans organisation, instead of a national convention. She did do better towards the end and I think she was able to show that she is "knowledgeable" on the issues. Still I think the delivery was awkward at times.
I'm not going to do a content grade because it's a convention speech, they're all fluff, bluster and attack.
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September 03, 2008, 10:28:16 pm »
A+
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:28:19 pm »
I don't go to the Olive Garden much, only when someone I know has a gift card. The pasta wasn't impressive, though the fact that I frequently cook Italian food probably influences my opinion somewhat. I recommend the "endless soup, salad, and breadsticks" deal, if it still exists.
As for Palin's speech, A++++++++++ GREAT SELLER FAST SHIPPING WOULD BUY FROM AGAIN.
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J. J.
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Reply #40 on:
September 03, 2008, 10:28:30 pm »
She didn't deliver the speech; she lived it. The barracuda is back!
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J. J.
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The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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J. J.
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September 03, 2008, 10:30:05 pm »
Quote from: elcorazon on September 03, 2008, 10:28:16 pm
A+
That high?
Granted, she was authentic.
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J. J.
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"Wa sala, wa lala."
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Turner22
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:30:41 pm »
Now we know why Sen. McCain picked her.
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:31:07 pm »
I'd definitely say her calling out Obama on his hypocrisy about touting small town USA then turning around and stabbing it in the back will really hurt nObama.
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elcorazon
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:31:41 pm »
Quote from: J. J. on September 03, 2008, 10:30:05 pm
Quote from: elcorazon on September 03, 2008, 10:28:16 pm
A+
That high?
Granted, she was authentic.
she was awesome. seriously. i mean i hate all she stands for but she was about as good as possible.
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:31:48 pm »
She basically said Barack Obama hates America. He wants America to be defeated in Iraq.
She said only one man in this race ever fought for us. She's right. What's amazing is that when we said the same thing about our guy in 2004, the other side succeeded in convincing America he not only didn't fight for us...he lied about it and really fought against us.
She just plain lied about her record on the bridge. She did not oppose it until it was politically unpopular.
She scored big points with me on the plane and chef. I think that kind of cost cutting is always a welcome thing and we need a lot more of it.
It was a brilliant move to bring the kids out on stage. Beautiful, sweet baby -- she is obviously a good mom...you can see it in her kids' eyes. I also liked watching Mac interact with them. He was having fun and that's always reassuring.
As a purely political attack speech, I give it an A+. Better than any speech I have heard this campaign season in either party. And infinitely better than any attack speech from Biden or Obama.
As for being a speech with the best interests of the country at heart, what can I say? I am an arch liberal...she is an arch conservative. So naturally, I can't give it anything more than a D.
Bottom line? I stand by my previous assertion -- barring a major misstep or scandal, my party has once again lost the election.
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Dan the Roman
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Re: Rate Palin's speech
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September 03, 2008, 10:32:25 pm »
I save my A+s for people who completely through away the teleprompter and the consequent pause every seven seconds. Bill Clinton is one of the few I can think of. Huckabee sometimes. McCain used to do it at townhalls too.
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Pictor Ignotus
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September 03, 2008, 10:33:38 pm »
Great speech. So much for "sweet Sarah Palin." The gloves are off now.
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J. J.
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September 03, 2008, 10:34:29 pm »
Quote from: Everyday I Write The Book on September 03, 2008, 10:31:07 pm
I'd definitely say her calling out Obama on his hypocrisy about touting small town USA then turning around and stabbing it in the back will really hurt nObama.
As someone from a small town, originally,
Palin knows us!
Can she reach into the suburbs? I don't know.
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J. J.
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- Londo Molari
"Every government are parliaments of whores.
The trouble is, in a democracy the whores are us." - P. J. O'Rourke
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Dan the Roman
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September 03, 2008, 10:34:47 pm »
Quote from: TCash101 on September 03, 2008, 10:33:38 pm
Great speech. So much for "sweet Sarah Palin." The gloves are off now.
That may be a mistake. I am not sure an attack speech, even a very good attack speech is what she wanted to give tonight.
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