have you ever used marijuana? / do you think it should be legal?

[Keystone Phil]

I know a couple people who smoke extensively, and their brains are pretty much fried whether they're high or not—it's kinda hard to tell the difference anymore.

No, no. That's just silly. Everyone tells us that marijuana is harmless.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

I know a couple people who smoke extensively, and their brains are pretty much fried whether they're high or not—it's kinda hard to tell the difference anymore.

No, no. That's just silly. Everyone tells us that marijuana is harmless.

The dealer that lived across my hall freshman year told me it was better for me than tobacco or alcohol! Needless to say I was the only person that he failed to get to smoke with him.

[Sbane]

I know a couple people who smoke extensively, and their brains are pretty much fried whether they're high or not—it's kinda hard to tell the difference anymore.

No, no. That's just silly. Everyone tells us that marijuana is harmless.

The dealer that lived across my hall freshman year told me it was better for me than tobacco or alcohol!

And he is right. Unless you are a schizo that is. Of course not doing weed,tobacco and alcohol is the safest way to go.

[minionofmidas]

I know a couple people who smoke extensively, and their brains are pretty much fried whether they're high or not—it's kinda hard to tell the difference anymore.

No, no. That's just silly. Everyone tells us that marijuana is harmless.

As with anything, it's the dose that makes the poison.

[NDN]

Obviously, there's plenty of alcoholics out there with brain damage or who act socially retarded too.

[YRABNNRM]

NO/NO

I hate illegal drugs and believe in harsh penalties for those who use them

Yea, because who needs prison cells for people who commit actual crimes?

[Flying Dog]

No/No

[Bacon King]

yes/yes

And the trite saying that those who choose their friends wisely, probably don't have any friends, isn't so ridiculous.

No.  The amount of kids that smoke pot in high school is greatly overstated.  The amount of kids that smoke that rank in the top 20% of the class is near nil

dude, of the top ten in my graduating class, seven of us were at least occasional users. Two were heavy users- #2 and #9.

[nclib]

No/Yes.

I strongly support its legalization for medical use.

Regarding recreational use, it should be discouraged but made legal. The "War on Drugs" should be seen as a public health issue rather than a criminal one.

[John Dibble]

I've never done it and I don't plan to. I feel fine most of the time so I don't really feel the need for any mind altering chemicals. Hell, I barely ever drink. I do see the appeal though, so I'm not against anyone who does so long as they aren't harming anyone else.

I do think it should be legal. As far as drugs go, pot is about at the same level as alcohol. I've had friends and family members who have led good lives and have maintained steady jobs. It's one of the easiest drugs to make yourself - all you need a pot full of potting soil, the sun or a sun lamp, and a plant and you're good to go - thus it's the hardest for law enforcement to fight successfully. It's a waste of police time and money to try to stop this, and if we're going to have sin taxes we might as well legalize it and tax it like we do booze and tobacco.

My one qualm with legalizing marijuana is that it really does seem to make people more lazy and prone to stupidity. I really don't want a nation of potheads. On the other hand a lot of the people who regularly get 'blazed' act pretty stupid to begin with.

As opposed to alcohol, which also might make you angry and violent as well as prone to stupidity.

[Keystone Phil]

NO/NO

I hate illegal drugs and believe in harsh penalties for those who use them

Yea, because who needs prison cells for people who commit actual crimes?

Well, in fairness, this isn't a "fake" crime. It is defined as a crime so it is an "actual" crime. However, you know that I agree with you that it isn't as serious of a crime.

[TeePee4Prez]

Yes/Yes

[© tweed]

NO/NO

I hate illegal drugs and believe in harsh penalties for those who use them

Yea, because who needs prison cells for people who commit actual crimes?

Well, in fairness, this isn't a "fake" crime. It is defined as a crime so it is an "actual" crime. However, you know that I agree with you that it isn't as serious of a crime.

it's only a "crime" because it is.  (and it's technically not in many places, just a "civil citation" in New York and misdemeanor in many other places).  the status quo itself isn't a argument for continuing the status quo.  (as in: "I hate illegal drugs!" isn't an argument for continued classification of a drug as illicit; all it does is state the status quo)

[Keystone Phil]

NO/NO

I hate illegal drugs and believe in harsh penalties for those who use them

Yea, because who needs prison cells for people who commit actual crimes?

Well, in fairness, this isn't a "fake" crime. It is defined as a crime so it is an "actual" crime. However, you know that I agree with you that it isn't as serious of a crime.

it's only a "crime" because it is.  (and it's technically not in many places, just a "civil citation" in New York and misdemeanor in many other places).  the status quo itself isn't a argument for continuing the status quo.  (as in: "I hate illegal drugs!" isn't an argument for continued classification of a drug as illicit; all it does is state the status quo)

Ok. I wasn't making an argument for it remaining the status quo. I stated that it is a crime because it is defined as one. If anything, Andrew should have worded his statement differently saying that it shouldn't be a crime, not that it isn't an "actual" crime. I understand what Andrew is saying though.

I just want to make clear that I don't use the argument, "I oppose drug legalization because drugs are illegal." I agree with you that that doesn't give a reason as to why it ought to be illegal. I was simply saying that it is illegal and, therefore, a crime.

[King]

Again, preventive taxation > the threat of prison time.

[Sensei]

Again, preventive taxation > the threat of prison time.

if it's legal with preventative taxation, what stops the continuation of street sales with no tax?

[King]

Again, preventive taxation > the threat of prison time.

if it's legal with preventative taxation, what stops the continuation of street sales with no tax?

Corporate America would take over the sale of this and they kick ass when it comes to stopping crime that keeps them from making money.

Mainly, they'll label their drugs as safer than off the streets and most importantly, the rich white suburbanites who buy a lot of the lighter stuff will probably be more willing to get it through legal means than off some guy on a street corner.

[Meeker]

No/No

[they don't love you like i love you]

NO/NO

I hate illegal drugs and believe in harsh penalties for those who use them

Yea, because who needs prison cells for people who commit actual crimes?

Well, in fairness, this isn't a "fake" crime. It is defined as a crime so it is an "actual" crime. However, you know that I agree with you that it isn't as serious of a crime.

it's only a "crime" because it is.  (and it's technically not in many places, just a "civil citation" in New York and misdemeanor in many other places).  the status quo itself isn't a argument for continuing the status quo.  (as in: "I hate illegal drugs!" isn't an argument for continued classification of a drug as illicit; all it does is state the status quo)

Ok. I wasn't making an argument for it remaining the status quo. I stated that it is a crime because it is defined as one. If anything, Andrew should have worded his statement differently saying that it shouldn't be a crime, not that it isn't an "actual" crime. I understand what Andrew is saying though.

I just want to make clear that I don't use the argument, "I oppose drug legalization because drugs are illegal." I agree with you that that doesn't give a reason as to why it ought to be illegal. I was simply saying that it is illegal and, therefore, a crime.

OK but is it something worth filling up our prisons over?

[tik 🪀✨]

Shorter Atlasian statistics on marijuana use and legalisation (55 votes):

% admitting to marijuana use:
Have used: 36.4%
Have not used: 63.6%

% legalisation of recreational use:
For legalising: 78.2%
Against legalising: 21.8%

This is absolutely meaningless, of course, but it does show that, at least here, pro-legalisation stances are in majority. There is a decently high rate of people admitting to usage, as well.

Personally I think it is only a matter of time before most countries at least largely decriminalise the use of marijuana for recreational use.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Somewhat amusingly, the country with the laxest pot laws in the world is a Muslim one. Alcohol is far more restricted than pot there.

[Keystone Phil]

OK but is it something worth filling up our prisons over?

No and I never saif that that should happen.

[Nym90]

Yes/Yes

[Хahar 🤔]

Somewhat amusingly, the country with the laxest pot laws in the world is a Muslim one. Alcohol is far more restricted than pot there.

Not surprising. I'd imagine other drugs are more widely used.

[they don't love you like i love you]

Somewhat amusingly, the country with the laxest pot laws in the world is a Muslim one. Alcohol is far more restricted than pot there.

Not surprising. I'd imagine other drugs are more widely used.

It's your ancestral country too.