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HappyWarrior
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #25 on:
September 17, 2008, 08:16:53 am »
First I think we should deal with this so that it does'nt come up again and I very much like Mikado's proposal on the matter. First I think we need to have some debate and if there are no objections vote on passage within 48 hours.
Mideast Fair Election Act
Section 1:
In situations where the Governor improperly words or incorrectly opens the voting booth for ballot referenda, constitutional amendments, and elections, the ballot will be shut down immediately by the Judge of the Mideast Superior Court. All results and votes cast in that voting booth are null and void.
Section 2:
If a voting booth is closed for improprieties, the Governor shall have one week from the opening of the original booth to open another booth on the measure/election/amendment.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #26 on:
September 17, 2008, 09:23:12 am »
I see no reason to oppose this legislation, seems like a common sense approach.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #27 on:
September 17, 2008, 03:49:37 pm »
Reworded it a bit, but didn't change the intent.
Mideast Fair Elections Act
Section 1:
In situations where the Governor improperly words or incorrectly opens the voting booth for referendums, votes on constitutional amendments, and general elections; the ballot will be shut down immediately by the Superior Court Judge. All results and votes cast in that voting booth will thus be considered null and void.
Section 2:
Once a voting booth is closed down, the Governor shall have one week from the opening of the original booth to open another booth.
I most certainly agree with the premises of this personally. But wouldn't it be a good idea to add a clause about a potential scenario in which the
Governor
is right, and the Judge is wrong?
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #28 on:
September 17, 2008, 06:13:31 pm »
I just have 1 question: Say a Governor is unable to open a booth at midnight; does that mean the booth has to be disqualified, and new election held? I know that this month's ballot will go up between 10-10:30, but I'll include a clear message that no votes cast before midnight will count; how will that fit in?
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #29 on:
September 20, 2008, 01:47:35 am »
Quote from: Governor Ben Constine on September 17, 2008, 06:13:31 pm
I just have 1 question: Say a Governor is unable to open a booth at midnight; does that mean the booth has to be disqualified, and new election held? I know that this month's ballot will go up between 10-10:30, but I'll include a clear message that no votes cast before midnight will count; how will that fit in?
Precident dictates that as an acceptable middle ground. I know I used it during my term and I believe Inks did as well if I recall correctly. Just as long as it is clearly stated that the ballot does not officially begin until midnight, no one can be expected to hit 10 o'clock on the dot.
Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 17, 2008, 03:49:37 pm
Reworded it a bit, but didn't change the intent.
Mideast Fair Elections Act
Section 1:
In situations where the Governor improperly words or incorrectly opens the voting booth for referendums, votes on constitutional amendments, and general elections; the ballot will be shut down immediately by the Superior Court Judge. All results and votes cast in that voting booth will thus be considered null and void.
Section 2:
Once a voting booth is closed down, the Governor shall have one week from the opening of the original booth to open another booth.
I most certainly agree with the premises of this personally. But wouldn't it be a good idea to add a clause about a potential scenario in which the
Governor
is right, and the Judge is wrong?
What sort of clause do you propose?
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #30 on:
September 21, 2008, 09:08:06 am »
Well...I don't think we need a clause against the Judge making the wrong call. We can always (if it's a national ballot) appeal to the Supreme Court.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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September 21, 2008, 10:41:02 pm »
Quote from: Judge HappyWarrior on September 20, 2008, 01:47:35 am
Quote from: Governor Ben Constine on September 17, 2008, 06:13:31 pm
I just have 1 question: Say a Governor is unable to open a booth at midnight; does that mean the booth has to be disqualified, and new election held? I know that this month's ballot will go up between 10-10:30, but I'll include a clear message that no votes cast before midnight will count; how will that fit in?
Precident dictates that as an acceptable middle ground. I know I used it during my term and I believe Inks did as well if I recall correctly. Just as long as it is clearly stated that the ballot does not officially begin until midnight, no one can be expected to hit 10 o'clock on the dot.
For the record, the ballot can be opened any time between 12:00 A.M. EST on Thursday and 12:01 A.M. EST on Friday. So if you can't open it at midnight, you can wait until Thursday evening to open it, and it's still perfectly legal.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #32 on:
September 22, 2008, 08:50:01 am »
Resolution on Mideast Assembly Leadership
I: Be it resolved that the Assembly of the Mideast Region will hereafter elect a Speaker of the Assembly.
II: The Speaker shall be elected at least once during every Assembly session, though if there is a call by two thirds of the assembly or the Speaker resigns there may be a new one elected at an earlier date.
III: The Speaker shall be invested with the following powers:
1) Initiate and direct discussion on any particular bill.
2) Call for votes on all bills in the Mideast Assembly.
3) Direct all needed discussion in the Mideast Assembly.
___________________________________________________________________________
Does anyone have any other ideas or suggestions?
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Reply #33 on:
September 22, 2008, 02:18:26 pm »
I support it. I think electing a speaker would make things run more smoothly, and more importantly, increase activity in the Assembly. It's important to have someone regulate the debate and call for votes on important pieces of legislation in order to make sure that we as an assembly do the job for which we have been elected.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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September 22, 2008, 02:44:47 pm »
I say we begin voting on this within twenty four hours and upon passage take nominations and elect our speaker.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #35 on:
September 22, 2008, 05:21:21 pm »
I'm going to laugh if all three people want to be speaker and vote for themselves
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #36 on:
September 22, 2008, 09:03:15 pm »
Support, but in a three-person legislative body without strong partisan divisions, a leadership contest might be a bit...personal?
This may be interesting.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #37 on:
September 23, 2008, 04:27:28 am »
Surely the Governer could act as Presiding officer [qm]
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #38 on:
September 23, 2008, 05:38:59 am »
If he is willing to accept, I hereby nominate HappyWarrior. (assuming, of course, that the suggestion is passed)
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #39 on:
September 23, 2008, 07:57:04 am »
First I feel we need to have an official binding vote.
Aye.
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September 23, 2008, 10:33:24 am »
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Reply #41 on:
September 23, 2008, 11:09:46 am »
I had been under the impression that the Lt. Governor was the presiding officer (that was my intention when I proposed the Assembly several months ago), but it appears that provision wasn't included in our Constitution. Blame Xahar.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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September 23, 2008, 01:04:53 pm »
It would seem that with a minimum of a 2/3 majority the measure passes.
Now we can vote on who we want as our new speaker.
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Reply #43 on:
September 23, 2008, 01:17:17 pm »
My nomination stands.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #44 on:
September 23, 2008, 03:08:48 pm »
I urge the assembly to speedily approve HappyWarrior for Speaker.
(Of course, two out of the three assemblymen support him.)
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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September 23, 2008, 03:19:47 pm »
I had introduced an Amendment to make the Lt. Governor presiding officer, but I guess that never went through
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Reply #46 on:
September 23, 2008, 03:22:28 pm »
If nobody objects, we could call a vote now.
I vote HappyWarrior.
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Re: Mideast Assembly Thread
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Quote from: Lt. Governor Ben Constine on September 23, 2008, 03:19:47 pm
I had introduced an Amendment to make the Lt. Governor presiding officer, but I guess that never went through
Well then perhaps this body has a chance at competency
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September 23, 2008, 03:49:37 pm »
I vote for HappyWarrior. I think he'll make a great presiding officer.
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Quote from: Kentoc'h mervel eget saotr on September 23, 2008, 03:49:37 pm
I vote for HappyWarrior. I think he'll make a great presiding officer.
we can save him the trouble of voting for himself then. That's settled. HappyWarrior, congratulations.
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