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Technocracy Timmy
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« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2017, 03:50:04 AM »

If the president had less power like a head of a council of states rather than holding executive power I think this would work. But then the United States wouldn't be a true country but more of a collective association of countries like the EU.

Presidential power has far exceeded what the constitution deemed appropriate.  It is time to start giving power back to the states, as well as the congress.

Arguing in favor of a popular vote tally, is purely a big government, less states rights argument.  It is solely a position of the left.

The argument for each state getting one vote is the much stronger one based on constitutional history.   I don't think the founders envisioned a state like California getting 18 times the voting power of smaller states, particularly in choosing a chief executive with the power that it has today.

Sites like the Atlas, that list popular vote totals, but not state totals, perpetuate the myth that somehow state count is irrelevant.  It is not--it is just as important as popular vote in having any discussion of results.

Perhaps though, the compromise is to limit states to no more than 15 EV (10x the smallest state), but even that, in my mind misses the point that the country is a collection of states.   It is, after all the United STATES of America, not the United Peoples Republic of America.

You bumped a thread that was 7 years 9 months old just to write this?
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« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2017, 10:46:09 PM »

This would be a horrible idea.
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« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2017, 08:33:18 PM »

I don't support this but if it did there should only be two options for President. It would not be fair for a candidate who got less than 50 percent of the vote in a state to get a state's sole electoral vote.
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« Reply #53 on: July 14, 2017, 01:10:15 PM »

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« Reply #54 on: July 14, 2017, 05:44:40 PM »

I'm surprised no-one has mentioned that Texas would just split itself into 5 different states (and so on with the larger states) in order to get more votes
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« Reply #55 on: July 28, 2017, 09:39:57 PM »
« Edited: July 29, 2017, 11:42:02 AM by Plankton5165 »

26 state majority:

2008 - Ohio - Obama needed 51.3% nationwide in a 2-man race (he got 53.6%)
2012 - Florida - Obama needed 51.5% nationwide (he got 51.9%)
2016 - North Carolina - Clinton needed 52.9% nationwide (she got 51.0%)
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« Reply #56 on: October 08, 2017, 11:18:35 PM »

26 state majority:

2008 - Ohio - Obama needed 51.3% nationwide in a 2-man race (he got 53.6%)
2012 - Florida - Obama needed 51.5% nationwide (he got 51.9%)
2016 - North Carolina - Clinton needed 52.9% nationwide (she got 51.0%)

Given that the constitution gives DC the same electoral power as the smallest state, wouldn't that mean the Democrat would need only 25 states plus DC to win the election?
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« Reply #57 on: October 09, 2017, 07:07:36 PM »

This could theoretically actually work if we had a system where all the states had equal populations, like this.
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