1983 Constituency Boundary (Scotland) stuff

[afleitch]

While I hope to have up the original proposals by the Commission at some point, (I have got Glasgow - tis fugly) for now here is Part I of a series of the notional 'jigsaw'

The 1983 notionals nationwide were a bit hit and miss (as theses things are) However here is the makeup. It allows you to translate the '74 results to '83 boundaries or if your maths is good, reverse the '83-'92 results on to the old constituencies (with many a remainder left over!)


Moray – 80% of Moray and Nairn, 62% of Banff
Banff and Buchan – 82% of Buchan, 38% of Banff
Gordon – 70% of Aberdeenshire West, 18% of Buchan
Kincardine and Deeside – 52% of Angus North and Mearns, 28% of Aberdeen South, 22% of Aberdeenshire West
Aberdeen North – 83% of Aberdeen North, 5% of Aberdeen South, 8% of Aberdeenshire West
Aberdeen South – 67% of Aberdeen South, 17% of Aberdeen North

Angus East – 63% of Angus South, 48% of Angus North and Mearns, 2% of Dundee East
Dundee East – 98% of Dundee East
Dundee West – 100% of Dundee West
Tayside North - 35% of Perth and East Perthshire, 34% of Angus South, 31% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Perth – 65% of Perth and West Perthshire, 46% of West Perthshire and Kinross, 3% of Angus South

Stirling – 34% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 33% of Stirlingshire West, 21% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Clackmannan – 60% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan, 2% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Falkirk West - 33% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 30% of  Stirlingshire West, 13% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan
Falkirk East - 33% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 27% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan, 8% West Lothian

[Harry Hayfield]

While I hope to have up the original proposals by the Commission at some point, (I have got Glasgow - tis fugly) for now here is Part I of a series of the notional 'jigsaw'

The 1983 notionals nationwide were a bit hit and miss (as theses things are) However here is the makeup. It allows you to translate the '74 results to '83 boundaries or if your maths is good, reverse the '83-'92 results on to the old constituencies (with many a remainder left over!)


Moray – 80% of Moray and Nairn, 62% of Banff
Banff and Buchan – 82% of Buchan, 38% of Banff
Gordon – 70% of Aberdeenshire West, 18% of Buchan
Kincardine and Deeside – 52% of Angus North and Mearns, 28% of Aberdeen South, 22% of Aberdeenshire West
Aberdeen North – 83% of Aberdeen North, 5% of Aberdeen South, 8% of Aberdeenshire West
Aberdeen South – 67% of Aberdeen South, 17% of Aberdeen North

Angus East – 63% of Angus South, 48% of Angus North and Mearns, 2% of Dundee East
Dundee East – 98% of Dundee East
Dundee West – 100% of Dundee West
Tayside North - 35% of Perth and East Perthshire, 34% of Angus South, 31% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Perth – 65% of Perth and West Perthshire, 46% of West Perthshire and Kinross, 3% of Angus South

Stirling – 34% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 33% of Stirlingshire West, 21% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Clackmannan – 60% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan, 2% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Falkirk West - 33% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 30% of  Stirlingshire West, 13% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan
Falkirk East - 33% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 27% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan, 8% West Lothian

I could certainly do that (unless you specfically want to?)

[afleitch]

While I hope to have up the original proposals by the Commission at some point, (I have got Glasgow - tis fugly) for now here is Part I of a series of the notional 'jigsaw'

The 1983 notionals nationwide were a bit hit and miss (as theses things are) However here is the makeup. It allows you to translate the '74 results to '83 boundaries or if your maths is good, reverse the '83-'92 results on to the old constituencies (with many a remainder left over!)


Moray – 80% of Moray and Nairn, 62% of Banff
Banff and Buchan – 82% of Buchan, 38% of Banff
Gordon – 70% of Aberdeenshire West, 18% of Buchan
Kincardine and Deeside – 52% of Angus North and Mearns, 28% of Aberdeen South, 22% of Aberdeenshire West
Aberdeen North – 83% of Aberdeen North, 5% of Aberdeen South, 8% of Aberdeenshire West
Aberdeen South – 67% of Aberdeen South, 17% of Aberdeen North

Angus East – 63% of Angus South, 48% of Angus North and Mearns, 2% of Dundee East
Dundee East – 98% of Dundee East
Dundee West – 100% of Dundee West
Tayside North - 35% of Perth and East Perthshire, 34% of Angus South, 31% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Perth – 65% of Perth and West Perthshire, 46% of West Perthshire and Kinross, 3% of Angus South

Stirling – 34% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 33% of Stirlingshire West, 21% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Clackmannan – 60% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan, 2% of West Perthshire and Kinross
Falkirk West - 33% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 30% of  Stirlingshire West, 13% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan
Falkirk East - 33% of Stirling, Falkirk and Grangemouth, 27% of Stirlingshire East and Clackmannan, 8% West Lothian

I could certainly do that (unless you specfically want to?)

I won't stop you I've seen the '79 notionals. The Oct '74 ones might be fun.

[afleitch]

Lothian was hard

Linlithgow – 68% of West Lothian
Livingston – 28% of Midlothian, 24% of West Lothian
Edinburgh West – 73% of Edinburgh West
Edinburgh Pentlands – 73% of Edinburgh Pentlands, 13% of Edinburgh South 9% of Midlothian
Edinburgh Leith – 100% of Edinburgh Leith, 20% of Edinburgh North, 18% of Edinburgh West
Edinburgh Central – 78% of Edinburgh Central, 43% of Edinburgh North, 9% of Edinburgh West
Edinburgh South – 87% of Edinburgh South, 27% of Edinburgh Pentlands, 22% of Edinburgh Central
Edinburgh East – 75% of Edinburgh East, 37% of Edinburgh North
Midlothian – 59% of Midlothian
East Lothian – 72% of Berwick and East Lothian, 25% of Edinburgh East

Tweedale etc - 54% of Roxburgh, Selkirk, 5% of Berwick and East Lothian, 4% of Midlothian
Roxburgh etc - 46% of Roxburgh, Selkirk, 23% of Berwick and East Lothian

Dumfries - 86% of Dumfries
Galloway and Upper Nithsdale - 100% Galloway, 14% Dumfries

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Dumfries - 86% of Dumfries
Galloway and Upper Nithsdale - 100% Galloway, 14% Dumfries

When did Maxwelltown et al get added to the Dumfries constituency [qm]. IIRC it was added to the burgh in the '30's.

[afleitch]

Dumfries - 86% of Dumfries
Galloway and Upper Nithsdale - 100% Galloway, 14% Dumfries

When did Maxwelltown et al get added to the Dumfries constituency [qm]. IIRC it was added to the burgh in the '30's.

Being on the other side of the river, it was in Kircudbright. So from 1918 onwards to 1950 it would have been part of Galloway. Even though it was abolished and shifted to Dumfries Burgh and Dumfriesshire in 1928 I don't think there was any change to the boundaries between Dumfries CC and Galloway CC

So..I think

1918-1950 Galloway
1950-1983 Dumfries
1983-1997 Galloway and Upper Nithsdale
1997-2011 Dumfries
2011-         West Dumfriesshire and Galloway

[afleitch]

Cunninghame North - 72% Ayr North and Bute, 33% of Ayrshire Central
Cunninghame South - 57% of Ayrshire Central
Kilmarnock - 100% of Kilmarnock
Ayr - 92% of Ayr, 10% Ayrshire Central
Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley - 100% Ayrshire South

Greenock - 97% Greenock
Renfrewshire West and Inverclyde - 60% of Renfrew West, 3% Greenock
Paisley North - 49% of Paisley, 20% of Renfrew West
Paisley South - 51% Paisley, 20% Renfrew West, 12% Renfrew East
Eastwood - 88% Renfrew East

[minionofmidas]

Edinburgh Leith – 100% of Edinburgh Leith, 20% of Edinburgh North, 18% of Edinburgh West
Edinburgh Central – 78% of Edinburgh Central, 48% of Edinburgh North, 9% of Edinburgh West

Where did the remainder of Edinburgh N go? To East?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Edinburgh Leith – 100% of Edinburgh Leith, 20% of Edinburgh North, 18% of Edinburgh West
Edinburgh Central – 78% of Edinburgh Central, 48% of Edinburgh North, 9% of Edinburgh West

Where did the remainder of Edinburgh N go? To East?

Might have been West. IIRC it had very odd boundaries.

[afleitch]

Edinburgh Leith – 100% of Edinburgh Leith, 20% of Edinburgh North, 18% of Edinburgh West
Edinburgh Central – 78% of Edinburgh Central, 48% of Edinburgh North, 9% of Edinburgh West

Where did the remainder of Edinburgh N go? To East?

Might have been West. IIRC it had very odd boundaries.

I missed a bit out - I've went back and updated. It did go to Edinburgh East

[afleitch]

East Kilbride - 81% of East Kilbride
Clydesdale - 87% of Lanark South, 26% of Hamilton
Hamilton - 74% of Hamilton, 19% of East Kilbride, 25% of Bothwell
Motherwell South - 100% of Motherwell
Motherwell North - 53% of Bothwell, 31% of Lanark North, 13% of Lanark South
Monklands West - 43% of Airdrie and Coatbridge and 27% of Lanark North, 4% of Dumbartonshire East, 3% of Stirlingshire West
Monklands East - 57% of Airdrie and Coatbridge, 15% of Lanark North, 10% Bothwell
Cumbernauld and Kilsyth - 45% of Dumbartonshire East, 10% of Stirlingshire West
Strathkelvin and Bearsden - 51% of Dumbartonshire East, 27% of Lanark North, 20% Stirlingshire West
Clydebank and Milngavie - 98% of Dumbartonshire Central
Dumbarton - 100% of Dumbartonshire West, 2% Dumbartonshire Central

[afleitch]

Glasgow Garscadden - 100% of Garscadden
Glasgow Hillhead - 98% of Hillhead, 54% of Kelvingrove
Glasgow Maryhill - 72% of Maryhill, 46% of Kelvingrove
Glasgow Springburn - 100% of Springburn, 28% of Maryhill, 34% of Central
Glasgow Provan - 100% of Provan, 5% of Shettleston
Glasgow Shettleston - 95% of Shettleston, 12% of Bothwell, 11% Glasgow Rutherglen
Glasgow Rutherglen - 89% of Rutherglen, 19% of Cathcart
Glasgow Central - 80% of Queens Park, 66% of Central, 22% of Pollock, 12% of Govan
Glasgow Cathcart - 81% Cathcart, 20% of Queens Park, 10% of Pollock
Glasgow Pollock - 68% of Pollock, 31% of Craigton
Glasgow Govan - 88% of Govan, 69% of Craigton

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Amusing that a Labour constituency was ever named after a place like Bothwell.

[minionofmidas]

Amusing that a Labour constituency was ever named after a place like Bothwell.

...all 111% percent of it.

What be Bothwell?

[afleitch]

Amusing that a Labour constituency was ever named after a place like Bothwell.

...all 111% percent of it.

What be Bothwell?

Fixed smart arse

Bothwell is a 15-20 minute walk across the river for me.

It's a commuter suburb, with it's own castle and golf course and home for current and ex Old Firm footballers. It's quite nice actually though a bit high brow.

Votes Tory.

South Lanarkshire Council Elections - May 2007

Conservatives - 1st Round

Bothwell and Uddingston 30.03 - Elected
Clydesdale East (1) 22.48 - Elected
Clydesdale East (2) 19.57 - Elected
Avondale and Stonehouse 19.19 - Elected
Clydesdale North 17.21 - Elected
Hamilton North and East 16.24
East Kilbride West 14.0 - Elected
Clydesdale West 12.93 - Elected
Cambuslang West 12.61
Clydesdale South 11.89
Hamilton South 10.74 - Elected
Hamilton West and Earnock 9.57
Cambuslang East 8.87
Larkhall 7.93
East Kilbride North 6.87
East Kilbride South 6.25
East Kilbride Central 6.21
Rutherglen Central and North 5.42
Blantyre 5.07
Rutherglen South 2.17

[minionofmidas]

Hamilton West and East 9.57

Naming insanity knows no bounds...

[afleitch]

Hamilton West and East 9.57

Naming insanity knows no bounds...

Is it your nature to be a d-ck over typo's?

[minionofmidas]

Hamilton West and East 9.57

Naming insanity knows no bounds...

Is it your nature to be a d-ck over typo's?

In principle it is.

But in this case I just didn't know that it was a typo. Anybody capable of naming a seat Inverness, Inverness East, random village near Inverness and Inverness Rural is capable of naming a ward Hamilton W & E too. Especially if (hey, it would have been conceivable) this was sort of an accurate description.

[afleitch]

Hamilton West and East 9.57

Naming insanity knows no bounds...

Is it your nature to be a d-ck over typo's?

In principle it is.

But in this case I just didn't know that it was a typo. Anybody capable of naming a seat Inverness, Inverness East, random village near Inverness and Inverness Rural is capable of naming a ward Hamilton W & E too. Especially if (hey, it would have been conceivable) this was sort of an accurate description.

I suppose. Perhaps I was a bit quick off the mark.

They are still doing it . West Dumfriesshire and East Dumfriesshire and Galloway being a case in point. The West seat is the old Dumfriesshire County. The East seat doesn't have anything that could be remotely considered Dumfriesshire in it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The UA ward that covers Gresford is Gresford East and West.

They are still doing it . West Dumfriesshire and East Dumfriesshire and Galloway being a case in point. The West seat is the old Dumfriesshire County. The East seat doesn't have anything that could be remotely considered Dumfriesshire in it.

Got your East and West mixed up

[afleitch]

The UA ward that covers Gresford is Gresford East and West.

They are still doing it . West Dumfriesshire and East Dumfriesshire and Galloway being a case in point. The West seat is the old Dumfriesshire County. The East seat doesn't have anything that could be remotely considered Dumfriesshire in it.

Got your East and West mixed up

You see I keep doing that! What is it about this thread...

[minionofmidas]

The UA ward that covers Gresford is Gresford East and West.

They are still doing it . West Dumfriesshire and East Dumfriesshire and Galloway being a case in point. The West seat is the old Dumfriesshire County. The East seat doesn't have anything that could be remotely considered Dumfriesshire in it.

Got your East and West mixed up

You see I keep doing that! What is it about this thread...

I noticed too but didn't point it out.
Mostly because I do that frequently as well...

[Harry Hayfield]

Assuming that's all the seats now suitably posted. I'll do 1979 (as a test to see if they tally) and then October 1974 afterwards.

[minionofmidas]

Highlands are missing so far. Fife, too.

[afleitch]

Highlands are missing so far. Fife, too.

I'll be posting those soon. There may be some guesswork there as the source material for some of the seats is a bit off.