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« on: September 17, 2008, 10:25:33 pm »
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I had to do a double-take when I saw this one, but here it comes:

http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=9029011
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 10:27:58 pm »
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By all means, let this poll influence Obama to dump his precious resources into IN.
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« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 10:29:45 pm »
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Selzer again...
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« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 10:32:32 pm »
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These state polls are certainly coming out at a furious pace these days.
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« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2008, 10:35:26 pm »
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The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

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Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

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« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2008, 10:36:31 pm »
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Neat. I was worried that McCain would get a North Dakota or Montana-esque bounce in Indiana, but so far it seems like he has not.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2008, 10:42:04 pm »
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No doubt propelled by the awesome reverse coattails of Jill Long-Thompson.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2008, 10:43:30 pm »
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The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

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Being that it's an Indiana poll...isn't that n=1?
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2008, 10:45:12 pm »
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The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

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It's easier to be the most accurate (and least accurate) when you only poll one primary (not a primary actually, but a caucus).
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2008, 10:46:09 pm »
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Quote from: TheresNoMoney on September 17, 2008, 10:35:26 pm
The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

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It's easier to be the most accurate (and least accurate) when you only poll one primary (not a primary actually, but a caucus).

Indiana was a primary...?
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2008, 10:50:02 pm »
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Quote from: Alcon on September 17, 2008, 10:46:09 pm
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Quote from: TheresNoMoney on September 17, 2008, 10:35:26 pm
The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

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It's easier to be the most accurate (and least accurate) when you only poll one primary (not a primary actually, but a caucus).

Indiana was a primary...?

Now that I'm looking it up, they did poll Indiana couple of weeks before the primary.  Had it as Obama +3 - barely within the MOE.

But what else did they poll, because a one-point miss in Iowa and a four-point miss in Indiana does not give me a 0.75 accuracy average.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2008, 11:29:12 pm »
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Quote from: Sam Spade on September 17, 2008, 10:45:12 pm
Quote from: TheresNoMoney on September 17, 2008, 10:35:26 pm
The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

Link

It's easier to be the most accurate (and least accurate) when you only poll one primary (not a primary actually, but a caucus).

I know she does work for the Detroit Free Press in Michigan.  I've always heard very good things about Ann Selzer, but I do not believe this poll.
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2008, 11:37:14 pm »
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Too much information. ERROR. ERROR !

I´ve created the German Wikipedia page on 2008 State polling and I used to update it every day, but now each day about 20-30 polls are released ...

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umfragen_zur_Pr%C3%A4sidentschaftswahl_in_den_Vereinigten_Staaten_2008_nach_Bundesstaaten

As for the poll: Indiana will be considerably closer than 2004, but I don´t think Obama can win. I would be happy though if CNN is not able to call IN after the polls are closed on Nov. 4 ...
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2008, 11:39:33 pm »
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Quote from: Alcon on September 17, 2008, 10:46:09 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on September 17, 2008, 10:45:12 pm
Quote from: TheresNoMoney on September 17, 2008, 10:35:26 pm
The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

Link

It's easier to be the most accurate (and least accurate) when you only poll one primary (not a primary actually, but a caucus).

Indiana was a primary...?

Now that I'm looking it up, they did poll Indiana couple of weeks before the primary.  Had it as Obama +3 - barely within the MOE.

But what else did they poll, because a one-point miss in Iowa and a four-point miss in Indiana does not give me a 0.75 accuracy average.

They had an OK Michigan poll:

http://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2008R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2620080111040

which showed Romney up by 5 (actual result: Romney wins by 9).  Better than the polls that actually had McCain winning, I guess.
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« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2008, 11:51:11 pm »
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This is getting annoying!! Obama will never win Indiana! Trash poll.
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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2008, 01:28:22 am »
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Quote from: Sam Spade on September 17, 2008, 10:29:45 pm
Selzer again...

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2008, 01:32:03 am »
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ahahahahahahah

mccain is losing in indiana

indiana!

hahaha

how the mighty have fallen

stick a fork in mccain
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2008, 01:33:08 am »
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Quote from: Aizen on September 18, 2008, 01:32:03 am
ahahahahahahah

mccain is losing in indiana

indiana!

hahaha

how the mighty have fallen

stick a fork in mccain

Please, for the love of Christ, go away.
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2008, 01:35:59 am »
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Quote from: StatesRights on September 18, 2008, 01:33:08 am
Quote from: Aizen on September 18, 2008, 01:32:03 am
ahahahahahahah

mccain is losing in indiana

indiana!

hahaha

how the mighty have fallen

stick a fork in mccain

Please, for the love of Christ, go away.


whoa

you go away you stupid son of a bitch

nah i'm just messin', you're not really stupid
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« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2008, 08:59:06 am »
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Quote from: Alcon on September 17, 2008, 11:29:12 pm
Quote from: Sam Spade on September 17, 2008, 10:45:12 pm
Quote from: TheresNoMoney on September 17, 2008, 10:35:26 pm
The poll was done by Selzer & Co., who 538.com ranked as the most accurate pollster during the primary season:

538.com Pollster Rankings

Here is the Indianapolis Star writeup on the poll:

Link

It's easier to be the most accurate (and least accurate) when you only poll one primary (not a primary actually, but a caucus).

I know she does work for the Detroit Free Press in Michigan.  I've always heard very good things about Ann Selzer, but I do not believe this poll.

She does the polling for the Detroit Free Press?
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« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2008, 11:16:58 am »
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The Hoosier state loves corn, Peyton Manning, and Barack Obama?


Somehow I doubt this poll, but hey Ill take it.
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« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2008, 11:57:17 am »
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Must explain why McCain is spending all that time in Indiana.  Oh wait, he hasn't been there.
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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 11:57:54 am »
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Must explain why McCain is spending all that time in Indiana.  Oh wait, he hasn't been there.

I agree!

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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 02:37:28 pm »
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Wow, does this mean Obama needs the Kerry states+IA+NM+IN? Make that Kerry states+IA+IN???

Not even I would buy that one! Good to see, though.
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« Reply #24 on: December 22, 2008, 06:03:12 am »
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Quote from: Aizen on September 18, 2008, 01:32:03 am
ahahahahahahah

mccain is losing in indiana

indiana!

hahaha

how the mighty have fallen

stick a fork in mccain

way to buy into trash polls, troll
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