TL 191 - 1948 and on (Interactive Timline)

[Historia Crux]

This is going to be a continuation of sorts to the Harry Turtledove saga of the South wins the Civil War. You, the voters will decide the nominees, the new president and also the decisions that the President will make. The votes for laws and acts will be a backing of how much the people back the act but it isn't written in stone so the President could decide against this, etc. So lets get going!

Please Vote for one candidate for each convention, so R, S and D, thanks

Democratic Presidential Convention:
-President Thomas Dewey(NY)
-Governor John Bricker(OH)

Socialist Presidential Convention:
-Senator Robert La Follette Jr.(WI)
-Interior Secretary Henry Wallace(NY)
-Congressman James Roe(NY)
-Mayor Hubert Humphrey(MN)

Republican Presidential Convention:
-Governor Harold Stassen(MN)
-Governor Alfred Driscoll(NJ)
-Businessman Riley Bender(IL)

[Hash]

Harry Turtledove is a talentless hack.

[Robespierre's Jaw]

Harry Turtledove is a talentless hack.

Agreed, but I would go further than that Hashemite. I would state that he's one of the worst alternative history writers known to man. Even the writer who wrote an alternative history scenario, where they claimed that President Gore would be considered a "lame duck" President is a better writer than Turtledove.

[Historia Crux]

Harry Turtledove is a talentless hack.

Agreed, but I would go further than that Hashemite. I would state that he's one of the worst alternative history writers known to man. Even the writer who wrote an alternative history scenario, where they claimed that President Gore would be considered a "lame duck" President is a better writer than Turtledove.

I know there bad and completely off the wall and not connected to reality but they pass the time and all the alt Civil War books are for some reason terrible.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

There are worse alt history writers than Turtledove.  Turtledove gets a bad rap because of the anti-butterfly effect that afflicts most pieces of alt hist that go more than a few years past the point of departure.  The desire to keep history, people, and places similar to OTL just to keep things familiar enough for casual readers is a real problem.  The 1632-verse has been notable for embracing the butterfly effect, but it has only reached four or five years from the POD.

[HappyWarrior]

Democratic Presidential Convention:
-President Thomas Dewey(NY)
-Governor John Bricker(OH)

Socialist Presidential Convention:
-Senator Robert La Follette Jr.(WI)
-Interior Secretary Henry Wallace(NY)
-Congressman James Roe(NY)
-Mayor Hubert Humphrey(MN)

Republican Presidential Convention:
-Governor Harold Stassen(MN)
-Governor Alfred Driscoll(NJ)
-Businessman Riley Bender(IL)

[True Democrat]

Dewey
Humphrey
Stassen

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Dewey
Humphrey
Stassen

[Historia Crux]

After Dewey's nomination he would keep Vice President Truman as his VP.

Stassen would decide upon former Kansas Governor Payne Ratner of Kansas for his Vice President.

The suprise candidate Hubert Humphrey would call upon strong retribution to the south and an expansion of blacks rights in the occupied south and the United States. He would choose New York Governor W. Averall Harriman as his VP.

Please vote for one of the tickets:

D - Thomas Dewey/Harry Truman

S - Hubert Humphrey/Averall Harriman

[HappyWarrior]

Dewey/Truman

[Kaine for Senate '18]

Humphrey/Harriman

[True Democrat]

Humphrey/Harriman

[Historia Crux]

In all of the suprises, Mayor Hubert Humphrey would win the presidency against incumbent President Thomas Dewey, in a show of bipartisanship Hubert Humphrey would offer the earliest opening on the Supreme Court. The first of Humphrey's "New Plan" project would be the passage of the Civil Rights Amendments Act that would create an amendment to the Constitution that would guarantee African American rights in the US and also the "Statue" Act that would implace a "Hall Of Heroes" in Richmond of US Generals that served during the Second Great War. Also the "GATO" or the German American Treaty Organization would be proposed by Democrats in Congress and would have the backing of the German government, many would say that the GATO organization could be a step to calm some of the mistrust that was brewing between the US and Germany. There would also be some stirring up of anger in the South by the growing "Freedomist Guard" and President Humphrey would be quick to address this by passing a law baning the Freedomist Guard in the Occupied CSA.

Civil Rights Amendment: Support? Choose either YES or NO

-YES

-NO

Statue Act: Support? Choose either YES or NO

-YES

-NO

GATO: Support? Choose either YES or NO

-YES

-NO

Freedomist Guard Ban Act: Support? Choose either YES or NO

-YES

-NO

[RosettaStoned]

-YES

-YES

-YES

-YES