Palin is a young earth creationist who believes that we are in the end times.

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I'm sure that some extreme wacko who thinks that the Earth come to an end at the age of less than 7000 years really has the long-term interests of this planet in mind.

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http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index1.html

[Sensei]

I'm sure that some extreme wacko who thinks that the Earth come to an end at the age of less than 7000 years really has the long-term interests of this planet in mind.

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that's it... i think she might be nuts.

[exopolitician]

Bleh.

[Hash]

Oh dear.

[bgwah]

ummmm, lol

I can't think of anything clever to say

[Joe Biden 2020]

I'm sure that some extreme wacko who thinks that the Earth come to an end at the age of less than 7000 years really has the long-term interests of this planet in mind.

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I agree with her for the most part, but there are some things I do disagree with her on this issue.  

Like Sarah, I also believe we are in the end times, and that the return of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, is imminent.  No one knows the day nor the hour that He will return for His church save for God Himself.  My job is to be ready for the day and time that he does come back.  I won't go so far as to say He will return during MY lifetime, but I am assured that He will return at some point in time.  Again, my job is just to be ready.  I believe that the human race is about 6,500 years old with approx 2000 years from Adam to Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham to Christ, and 2000 years from Christ to today, but I believe the earth itself may be billions of years old.  I believe in Creation, but I don't necessarily believe in 7 calendar days, as in 24-hour days.  For all we know, it could be 7 calendar days or it could be 7 phases, with each phase taking possibly thousands or even millions of years.  I am more inclined to believe in 7 phases, but it could just as easily be 7 24-hour periods, because God is God and I am not.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Why do I feel that she's just a female Huckabee?

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

within our lifetime? quite possible

imminent? absolutely not

[GMantis]

Somehow, I don't think it's a good idea for someone with her views to be so close to the nuclear suitcase.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

also, this is a he said she said thingy...why not wait to hear what palin thinks from palin herself?

[Bacon King]

also, this is a he said she said thingy...why not wait to hear what palin thinks from palin herself?

^^^^ this. Though honestly I wouldn't be suprised if she was a YEC.

[Swing low, sweet chariot. Comin' for to carry me home.]

gmantis

I,ve never known any christian who believes the US pushing the button could usher in the return of christ

[Firefly]

I agree with her for the most part, but there are some things I do disagree with her on this issue.  

Like Sarah, I also believe we are in the end times, and that the return of Jesus Christ, the Messiah, is imminent.  No one knows the day nor the hour that He will return for His church save for God Himself.  My job is to be ready for the day and time that he does come back.  I won't go so far as to say He will return during MY lifetime, but I am assured that He will return at some point in time.  Again, my job is just to be ready.  I believe that the human race is about 6,500 years old with approx 2000 years from Adam to Abraham, 2000 years from Abraham to Christ, and 2000 years from Christ to today, but I believe the earth itself may be billions of years old.  I believe in Creation, but I don't necessarily believe in 7 calendar days, as in 24-hour days.  For all we know, it could be 7 calendar days or it could be 7 phases, with each phase taking possibly thousands or even millions of years.  I am more inclined to believe in 7 phases, but it could just as easily be 7 24-hour periods, because God is God and I am not.

rofl

[Lunar]

^
wow.

[JSojourner]

also, this is a he said she said thingy...why not wait to hear what palin thinks from palin herself?

I have to completely agree.

I am just as likely as any non-religious liberal to assign the "moonbat" label to those who are cheering on the apocalypse.  And I am a "religious".  It's one thing to say "I believe Jesus is coming again" and I hope it's soon.  It's quite another to say "I believe Jesus is coming again and I can't wait to see those who aren't true believers get what's coming to them".

But Jmcfst has it precisely right.  This is a conversation and what's more -- it's one reported by Salon.  I like Salon.  They are usually reliable.  But still, pretty far left of center.  We need to take this with a HUGE grain of salt. 

Sarah Palin should hold a series of press conferences and answer the questions that matter.  And tell the muckrakers who ask questions that don't matter -- to go soak their heads.

[Ebowed]

Young earth creationism is used as an excuse to oppose environmental protection.

George W. Bush was 'unsure' about evolution.

[J. J.]

Little problem, the people tat are saying are liberal activists, self defined.

I heard the same things about Reagan in 1980.

[Keystone Phil]

I love how the hacks on this forum constantly complain about how we ought to be discussing the most important issues of the day...and then resort to this.

[The Duke]

Like jmfcst said, this is he-said-she-said.

But I would be surprised if she was not a creationist.

I would also say the people who are concerned she believes in the end times simply do not understand Christian theology.  If they udnerstoodthe theology, they would not be surprised or disturbed that a Christian might believe in the end times.

I would also say that the cultural elitism of Forum members is showing right now.  If Palin is a creationist, she is in a clear majority of Americans.

According to a CBS/New York Times Poll:
55% of Americans believe God created humans as they are
27% of Americans believe God guided the process of evolution
13% of Americans beieve evolution occurred naturally

So, only 13% of Americans believe in natural evolution, while 82% of Americans believe in some form of creationism.

Why is anyone surprised Palin is a creationist?  Most people in this country are.  Even the left's science guru Al Gore is an admitted creationist who wanted creationism taught in schools.

[The Duke]

Young earth creationism is used as an excuse to oppose environmental protection.

George W. Bush was 'unsure' about evolution.

How about Al Gore who is a creationist?

Is he using creationism to justify not protecting the environment?

[JSojourner]

Young earth creationism is used as an excuse to oppose environmental protection.

This is OFTEN the case.  But even some YEC folks are changing their views on environmentalism.

They used to say, "The world is gonna burn up some day at the end of time and the Lord is gonna create a new earth."  (So I use their own theology on them.)

"Okay fine.  The world is going to burn up some day.  So are you.  And the Lord will give you a new body, right?  Well...I bet you still brush your teeth. "  In other words, you take care of what the good Lord has given you. You owe it to the Lord, to yourself and to those who depend on you.  It's no less applicable to our environment.

Of course, there's an even better response.  Psalm 26:1.  "The earth is the Lord's and everything that is in it."

To me, this means it's His.  It's not mine.  And if He entrusted me with it, I'd better not muck it up too badly. Those whales and polar bears may mean nothing to me.  But they belong to my Father. They are supposed to show forth His glory.  If they are dying out, and I've not tried to stop that, then I am helping to silence or elminate another created thing that supposedly shows how wonderful the creator is.

Anyway, those are a couple of counterarguments that I have found effective with some of the more sincere, devout YEC folk

[Stranger in a strange land]

Like jmfcst said, this is he-said-she-said.

But I would be surprised if she was not a creationist.

I would also say the people who are concerned she believes in the end times simply do not understand Christian theology.  If they udnerstoodthe theology, they would not be surprised or disturbed that a Christian might believe in the end times.

I would also say that the cultural elitism of Forum members is showing right now.  If Palin is a creationist, she is in a clear majority of Americans.

According to a CBS/New York Times Poll:
55% of Americans believe God created humans as they are
27% of Americans believe God guided the process of evolution
13% of Americans beieve evolution occurred naturally

So, only 13% of Americans believe in natural evolution, while 82% of Americans believe in some form of creationism.

Why is anyone surprised Palin is a creationist?  Most people in this country are.  Even the left's science guru Al Gore is an admitted creationist who wanted creationism taught in schools.

If 82% of Americans are creationists, then why are creationists voted off of school boards whenever they try to implement the teaching of creationism?

[Firefly]

Young earth creationism is used as an excuse to oppose environmental protection.

George W. Bush was 'unsure' about evolution.

How about Al Gore who is a creationist?

Is he using creationism to justify not protecting the environment?

I believe the more shocking part of this claim (merely hearsay at the moment) about Palin's beliefs is the "young earth" part, not the "creationist" part.  Al Gore is certainly not a young-earth creationist, and neither are 82% of Americans.  

[The Duke]

Young earth creationism is used as an excuse to oppose environmental protection.

George W. Bush was 'unsure' about evolution.

How about Al Gore who is a creationist?

Is he using creationism to justify not protecting the environment?

I believe the more shocking part of this claim (merely hearsay at the moment) about Palin's beliefs is the "young earth" part, not the "creationist" part.  Al Gore is certainly not a young-earth creationist, and neither are 82% of Americans.  

You didn't read the post carefully.  I didn't say 82% of Americans are young earth creationists.  I said 82% of Americans believe in some form of creationism.

And Al Gore is a young earth creationist.  He believes Adam and Eve were created 200,000 years ago in the Garden of Eden and has said so publicly and repeatedly.

[The Duke]

If 82% of Americans are creationists, then why are creationists voted off of school boards whenever they try to implement the teaching of creationism?

That is a valid question, but the poll shows what it shows.  Also, this poll is national, and doesn't necessarily tell us what the numbers are in the particular school districts where the battles are being waged.

One explainaition may be that creationists don't always want their views taught in science class.  Palin, who I think is a creationist, has said creationism should not be in the school curriculum.  Is it really hard to believe that many creationists don't want their own religion taught as science even if they believe their religion is true?