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« on: September 26, 2008, 10:41:35 PM »

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/tws_exclusive_kissinger_unhapp.asp

Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2008, 10:45:53 PM »

Bomb Bomb Bomb Laos Iran.
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2008, 10:51:30 PM »

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/09/tws_exclusive_kissinger_unhapp.asp

Henry Kissinger believes Barack Obama misstated his views on diplomacy with US adversaries and is not happy about being mischaracterized. He says: "Senator McCain is right. I would not recommend the next President of the United States engage in talks with Iran at the Presidential level. My views on this issue are entirely compatible with the views of my friend Senator John McCain. We do not agree on everything, but we do agree that any negotiations with Iran must be geared to reality."

I wouldn't say "lie" but mischaracterize or misunderstand.
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2008, 01:13:41 AM »


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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2008, 08:10:32 AM »

Kissinger has been around long enough not to allow himself to be used by the opposing campaign.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2008, 09:29:34 AM »

Given that Kissinger is something of an expert on lying, I think that we should defer to his opinion on this.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2008, 12:15:36 PM »

It was McCain who mischaracterized Obama's position.

Obama has never advocated one on one, President to President (or Prime Minister or whatever) meetings without preconditions. 

What he HAS advocated are lower level negotiations and talks without preconditions...something that has happened in every administration in my lifetime.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2008, 12:20:42 PM »
« Edited: September 27, 2008, 12:25:38 PM by Torie »

It was McCain who mischaracterized Obama's position.

Obama has never advocated one on one, President to President (or Prime Minister or whatever) meetings without preconditions. 

What he HAS advocated are lower level negotiations and talks without preconditions...something that has happened in every administration in my lifetime.

Obama's initial comments were sloppier than that. As with so many other of his  comments/positions, Obama has moved to the sensible center. I was very impressed with Obama in the debate, by the way. I won't lose much sleep if he is elected. Heck, I plan to slow down anyway, so I might even get a tax cut. Smiley There is something to be said for a man who rose from the Left without much in the way of core beliefs. Tongue
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2008, 12:22:18 PM »

Somehow, I don't mind the public thinking Obama disagrees with Henry Kissinger on foreign policy.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2008, 01:14:44 PM »

Somehow, I don't mind the public thinking Obama disagrees with Henry Kissinger on foreign policy.

It's not disagreeing on foreign policy. It's on Kissinger's own stance.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2008, 01:19:45 PM »

This is stupid.

McCain already said that this was Kissinger's position during the debate. Surely Kissinger doesn't need to clarify it?

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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2008, 01:36:03 PM »

Obama has never advocated one on one, President to President (or Prime Minister or whatever) meetings without preconditions.

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/07/23/debate.transcript/

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I suppose you could parse the meaning of "the leaders of" those countries so that it doesn't exactly mean the head of government himself, but this has been widely interpreted to mean that, yes, Obama would personally meet with Kim Jong-il and Raul Castro.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2008, 01:47:15 PM »

This is stupid.

McCain already said that this was Kissinger's position during the debate. Surely Kissinger doesn't need to clarify it?



Oh, but he needed to set the upstart straight, since it was clearly the upstart who mischaracterized Kissinger's position in this matter.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2008, 07:58:17 PM »

Given that Kissinger is something of an expert on lying, I think that we should defer to his opinion on this.

By that logic, Obama lied in siding with Kissinger at all then.
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2008, 08:03:42 PM »

Given that Kissinger is something of an expert on lying, I think that we should defer to his opinion on this.

By that logic, Obama lied in siding with Kissinger at all then.

You should not look for logic in sneers, me duck.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2008, 08:45:41 PM »

Vietnam veterans and those who didn't come home: Kissinger lied
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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2008, 01:23:36 AM »

Given that Kissinger is something of an expert on lying, I think that we should defer to his opinion on this.

By that logic, Obama lied in siding with Kissinger at all then.

You should not look for logic in sneers, me duck.

I look for logic everywhere (I feel like I should've stopped doing that on this forum a long time ago Tongue)
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