Muhlenberg College/Morning Call Pennsylvania Tracking Poll Thread

[Keystone Phil]

Can you imagine Phil's reaction if McCain actually did abandon PA? LOL.

LOL YA!

[Keystone Phil]

  You are telling me he is worried about losing democratic base in the 2nd more democratic city in the country?  Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

Uh, no one is saying he'll lose Philly but he's going to lose a significant chunk of the base here (white, working class Catholics).

[Keystone Phil]

  You are telling me he is worried about losing democratic base in the 2nd more democratic city in the country?  Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

Uh, no one is saying he'll lose Philly but he's going to lose a significant chunk of the base here (white, working class Catholics).

So once again, you are claiming Catholics are more likely to be racist.

Once again, I am not. Please read why in the numerous other threads where I've responded to this accusation (and where others have backed me up).

[Keystone Phil]

  You are telling me he is worried about losing democratic base in the 2nd more democratic city in the country?  Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

Uh, no one is saying he'll lose Philly but he's going to lose a significant chunk of the base here (white, working class Catholics).

So once again, you are claiming Catholics are more likely to be racist.

Once again, I am not. Please read why in the numerous other threads where I've responded to this accusation (and where others have backed me up).

All I've seen is you claiming such people won't vote for Obama because of race.

Ok so why isn't it that you don't pick up on the idea that it's the white working class that won't vote for him because of race? Oh, I know why! You just want to be able to say that Catholics are racists.

You are a very, very, very ignorant, dumb, douchebag.

[Keystone Phil]

  You are telling me he is worried about losing democratic base in the 2nd more democratic city in the country?  Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

Uh, no one is saying he'll lose Philly but he's going to lose a significant chunk of the base here (white, working class Catholics).

So once again, you are claiming Catholics are more likely to be racist.

Once again, I am not. Please read why in the numerous other threads where I've responded to this accusation (and where others have backed me up).

All I've seen is you claiming such people won't vote for Obama because of race.

Ok so why isn't it that you don't pick up on the idea that it's the white working class that won't vote for him because of race? Oh, I know why! You just want to be able to say that Catholics are racists.

You are a very, very, very ignorant, dumb, douchebag.

Who is the white working class in my state supporting? Let's check the results of NE Minneapolis and St. Louis County after the election.

Do you understand logic? Like...at all?

Let's check who the Catholics in MA and RI are supporting! Looks like Catholics aren't racist!

[Keystone Phil]

  You are telling me he is worried about losing democratic base in the 2nd more democratic city in the country?  Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh

Uh, no one is saying he'll lose Philly but he's going to lose a significant chunk of the base here (white, working class Catholics).

So once again, you are claiming Catholics are more likely to be racist.

Once again, I am not. Please read why in the numerous other threads where I've responded to this accusation (and where others have backed me up).

All I've seen is you claiming such people won't vote for Obama because of race.

Ok so why isn't it that you don't pick up on the idea that it's the white working class that won't vote for him because of race? Oh, I know why! You just want to be able to say that Catholics are racists.

You are a very, very, very ignorant, dumb, douchebag.

Who is the white working class in my state supporting? Let's check the results of NE Minneapolis and St. Louis County after the election.

Do you understand logic? Like...at all?

Let's check who the Catholics in MA and RI are supporting! Looks like Catholics aren't racist!

Massachusetts 2004 exit poll:

Catholics:
Kerry 51
Bush 49

Protestants:
Kerry 60
Bush 39

...

And what does that have to do with the 2008 results and race? How are Catholics there going to vote this year, BRTD?

I love it when it becomes so obvious that you've lost an argument! 

[Keystone Phil]

It'll vote for Obama, and the Protestants will vote more for him.

That's great that they'll vote for him by more. Now let's see - who will be more strongly for Obama (since this seems to be the ultimate gauge of racism these days) - southern Catholics or southern Protestants?

[Keystone Phil]

It'll vote for Obama, and the Protestants will vote more for him.

That's great that they'll vote for him by more. Now let's see - who will be more strongly for Obama (since this seems to be the ultimate gauge of racism these days) - southern Catholics or southern Protestants?

Southern Protestants of course, considering almost all blacks are as such and few are Catholic.

So white Protestants are racists. Thanks for the insight!

[Keystone Phil]

It'll vote for Obama, and the Protestants will vote more for him.

That's great that they'll vote for him by more. Now let's see - who will be more strongly for Obama (since this seems to be the ultimate gauge of racism these days) - southern Catholics or southern Protestants?

Southern Protestants of course, considering almost all blacks are as such and few are Catholic.

So white Protestants are racists. Thanks for the insight!

Yes, and they are most Southern Baptists, not members of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America.

That doesn't matter. All Protestants are now more likely to be racist. You lose.

[Keystone Phil]

Obama will return to PA on Monday & Tuesday to campaign and keep his double-digit lead.

Loving that spin!

[Keystone Phil]

Obama will return to PA on Monday & Tuesday to campaign and keep his double-digit lead.

Loving that spin!

What spin?  His lead is still 10+ points, and I doubt the number will change come monday (as polls usually dont come out on Saturday).

Last I checked the number 10 is "double digits".

The spin is that he's coming here to "keep his double digit lead." He obviously felt the need to post that because of the numerous stories about Obama not really thinking he's ahead by that much.

[Keystone Phil]

Obama will return to PA on Monday & Tuesday to campaign and keep his double-digit lead.

Loving that spin!

What spin?  His lead is still 10+ points, and I doubt the number will change come monday (as polls usually dont come out on Saturday).

Last I checked the number 10 is "double digits".

The spin is that he's coming here to "keep his double digit lead." He obviously felt the need to post that because of the numerous stories about Obama not really thinking he's ahead by that much.

I'm confused.  How is it "spin" when the numbers exist?

"Spin" is one thing when the numbers don't favor an individual/party and they spin it to make it seem like they are good for them (e.g. MSNBC claiming victory because they win the "all important 25-54 demo" but losing in total viewers).

The internal +2 poll was from Oct 14...or the news at least.  We haven't heard anything since, so how does any of us know that it is still +2?  How do you know it was not some fake release to egg McCain into wasting time here?

http://vompolitik.blogspot.com/2008/10/pennsylvania-admiral-ackbar.html

You don't understand what I'm trying to say.

[Keystone Phil]

Phil is basically saying that believing the polls of PA makes you a hack and any non-hack believes the race is much closer than all the polls show.

I need you to do me a little favor on Election night: Celebrate by playing in traffic. On a highway. While drunk.

It will be so worth it.

[Keystone Phil]

Bad news for J.J. and Keystone Phil:

Grow up, dude. You're creeping towards troll territory.