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Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #25 on:
October 14, 2008, 11:56:09 am »
DST is ridiculous farce; we should abolish it posthaste. This has nothing to do with the fact that I was a Hoosier for the first four years of my life, back when they were sensible
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #26 on:
November 02, 2008, 06:06:09 am »
I worked today until 3 am (luckily I figured out I could clock out at the second 2 am), but that extra hour freaked me out. It was like the twilight zone.
Like, people coming in the building at 1:50 came in later than the people who came in 20 minutes later at 1:10.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #27 on:
November 02, 2008, 09:57:03 am »
Daylights saving time only serves to confuse people. Pick one, and keep it year long.
How about a happy medium. We adjust all the time zones by one half hour, halfway between the two, and just use that.
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Redefeatbush04
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #28 on:
November 16, 2008, 08:23:23 pm »
I really don't understand why we have daylight savings time. I agree with Lunar. Lets just use "earth time". We should also make it a 24 hour clock. This 12 and 12 stuff is nonsense.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #29 on:
October 26, 2011, 10:06:17 pm »
Kill it
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #30 on:
October 27, 2011, 05:24:05 am »
It should be returned to whatever my sleeping schedule is.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #31 on:
October 27, 2011, 02:13:18 pm »
No, it exists for functional purposes.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #32 on:
October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm »
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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October 27, 2011, 06:25:25 pm »
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
Urr.......whatever he just said.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #34 on:
October 27, 2011, 06:32:10 pm »
Eliminate Standard Time. The daylight is more useful in the afternoon than in the morning.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #35 on:
October 27, 2011, 06:38:45 pm »
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
Can you elaborate so us laymen can grasp what you just said?
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #36 on:
October 27, 2011, 06:58:51 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on October 27, 2011, 06:38:45 pm
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
Can you elaborate so us laymen can grasp what you just said?
When someone asks you for the time, you name the line of longitude where it's currently solar noon.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #37 on:
October 27, 2011, 08:09:10 pm »
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:58:51 pm
Quote from: Frodo on October 27, 2011, 06:38:45 pm
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
Can you elaborate so us laymen can grasp what you just said?
When someone asks you for the time, you name the line of longitude where it's currently solar noon.
I didn't understand sh*t of what you just said, but damn it sounds good!
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #38 on:
October 27, 2011, 08:36:39 pm »
While I think DST lasts too long now, I'm not opposed to the idea. However, one idiotic idea of chronology that needs to be done away with is the leap second.
I also think the time zone boundaries in the US need adjusting westward and to be consolidated into three time zones.
Blue = Eastern Time Zone (UTC-5)
Red = Central Time Zone (UTC-6)
Green = Western Time Zone (UTC-7) renamed from Mountain Time Zone since it includes all the former Pacific Time Zone states, and calling it Pacific Time would cause confusion
Puerto Rico and the USVI would remain in the Atlantic Time Zone. (UTC-4).
Alaska is far enough north, that whatever time zone they find convenient should be used. Keeping on Alaska Time (UTC-9) probably would be best.
Hawaii and the Aleutians should join American Samoa in using UTC-11 and the time zone renamed the Central Pacific Time Zone. (To be simplified to Pacific Time Zone after a decade or so.) All the minor uninhabited U.S. Pacific islands should also use UTC-11, with the exception of Wake, which is currently UTC+12.
Guam and the Northern Marianas should stay at UTC+10, placing Wake at UTC+10 as well would keep it from having a time zone of its own. since Wake is uninhabited, I see no need to change the name from Chamorro Time Zone.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #39 on:
October 27, 2011, 09:04:07 pm »
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:58:51 pm
Quote from: Frodo on October 27, 2011, 06:38:45 pm
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
Can you elaborate so us laymen can grasp what you just said?
When someone asks you for the time, you name the line of longitude where it's currently solar noon.
Give us a real-life example.
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Thomas D
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #40 on:
October 27, 2011, 09:06:07 pm »
Don't we have this so kids don't have to walk to school in the dark? Seems like good enough reason for me.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #41 on:
October 27, 2011, 09:10:20 pm »
Quote from: Frodo on October 27, 2011, 09:04:07 pm
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:58:51 pm
Quote from: Frodo on October 27, 2011, 06:38:45 pm
Quote from: Averroës Nix on October 27, 2011, 06:23:47 pm
Replace the current system of timekeeping and time zones with a worldwide standard tied to the longitude of the subsolar point.
Can you elaborate so us laymen can grasp what you just said?
When someone asks you for the time, you name the line of longitude where it's currently solar noon.
Give us a real-life example.
When it's noon in Greenwich, England, the time (anywhere) would be 0 degrees. When it's noon in New York City, the time would be 74 degrees W.
EDIT: I want to add the caveat that using the same units is unnecessary and probably confusing. You could say "74 microts" or something. The point is that the system would be tied to longitudinal coordinates.
Quote from: Thomas D on October 27, 2011, 09:06:07 pm
Don't we have this so kids don't have to walk to school in the dark? Seems like good enough reason for me.
Very few children walk to school anymore. Besides, rescheduling the school day seems like a more effective solution to this problem.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #42 on:
October 27, 2011, 11:31:19 pm »
Instead of causing confusion twice a year, maybe the government should simply require offices, schools, and shops to shift their hours to one hour earlier, year round. That way the clock continues to bear reasonably close relations with the sun's position, and we continue to benefit from an extra hour of sunshine during the evening.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #43 on:
October 28, 2011, 05:10:07 am »
Preferential ballot
1) Abolish the sick joke
(gap)
2) Restrict it to what it used to be for, ie summer
3) At least remove the confusion by abolishing the last wintery remains of real time
(boundless chasm)
4) Status Quo. Seriously. I spent much of the first half of april contemplating suing the government for emotional damages. And, of course, it's purely dst's fault that I need to start working before sunup during the second half of october, then go back to something healthier for part of november before the vile time starts in earnest. (We change the clock tomorrow night. IIRC you do it even later.)
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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October 30, 2011, 02:09:57 pm »
Quote from: Thomas D on October 27, 2011, 09:06:07 pm
Don't we have this so kids don't have to walk to school in the dark? Seems like good enough reason for me.
No, that is one reason Daylight Savings isn't year round.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #45 on:
November 01, 2011, 10:53:14 am »
Absolutely not. Instead, we should use it during the whole year.
If find it dreadfully depressive when it's 6 PM and the sky is already dark.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #46 on:
November 01, 2011, 03:11:51 pm »
every employee should get two hours extra pay per year
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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Reply #47 on:
November 03, 2011, 10:13:00 pm »
Well, I think it makes sense that opening/working/schooling hours adjust to the season. This could theoretically be achieved without government intervention, but coordination problems make this difficult.
I don't think I like the idea of Universal Time. I think each time zone having its own "noon" or whatever time is useful. I might be overestimating the value of this, though.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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November 04, 2011, 01:48:26 am »
Universal Time would create big issues in laws that are tied to time (most I don't agree with as they are things like youth curfews and mandatory bar closing times, but they won't just disappear with that.) Plus no one should live somewhere where the date changes in the middle of the day.
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Re: Should Daylight Savings Time be abolished?
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November 05, 2011, 07:31:17 am »
I'm not sure in which direction it should lean, but I really resent that hour change whenever it happens.
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