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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
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« on: September 14, 2004, 10:59:03 AM »

The U.S. military hammered the daylights out of the Iraqi military, occupied the country, overthrew the government and put their leader in jail, all within a few months time. From a military perspective I'd say thats a pretty effective ass-kicking. The military did their job well.
Whether they should have been sent there in the first place is a different question though. You can argue that the evidence suggested they had weapons of mass destruction and a nuke program which justified our attack. But those things were not found so the question now is why are we still there?

We're still there because we're trying to stablize the country, so it doesn't descend into either anarchy, civil war, or theocratic totalitarianism.  Whether we were right or not to go in the first place, we are now there to HELP the people of Iraq.  Not to occupy, not to colonize, not to plunder.  It gets my blood boiling, all of these so-called "insurgents," screwing over the future of the Iraqi people, preventing their ultimate peace, freedom, and prosperity.  This has nothing to do with fighting against America.  This has to do with being opposed to a free and democratic society.  If they lay down their arms and accepted the new government, the Americans could withdraw, and Iraq could take its place among the democratic nations of the world.

We have the "insurgents" in Iraq, and the fact that among Arab League states, NOT ONE is a free democracy.  WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE AGAINST FREEDOM???

Sorry, this whole thing makes me want to rant now and then.
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Beefalow and the Consumer
Beef
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 9,123
United States


Political Matrix
E: -2.77, S: -8.78

« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2004, 03:17:25 PM »
« Edited: September 14, 2004, 03:18:11 PM by Beef »

Don't forget potential secular totalitarianism (e.g., Saddam).


"WHAT DO THESE PEOPLE HAVE AGAINST FREEDOM???"
Would you feel more free if a huge country came into your moderatly sized country and told you how you are goign to run things?

We're not telling them how to run things.  We are trying to restore order and establish a popularly-elected government so that the people of Iraq can decide how to run things.

How would you feel if you were ruled by a brutal dictator who gassed ethnic minorities, had sick, sadistic kids who liked to torture people for sport, and built opulent palaces while you had barely enough food to survive - and the world stood by and did nothing out of respect for your "national sovereignty?"

Now, it's not my intention to justify the decision to go to war in the first place - just to say that all these people fighting against the American presence need to get some friggin' perspective!  WE ARE ON YOUR SIDE!
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